New AP 26240 with 4401 Super Clone movement is coming

[WatchNoobie]

We need more on hands pic of the black ceramic!!

 

[kidcreole]

My QC also arrived. My logo on dial is dark like a few others. I'm hoping it is a lighting issue.

Same watch with an updated pic with more agreeable lighting.

 

[Game8748]

Just got gen dial ! Can’t wait for the release

How did you get the gen dial?

 

[fletch512]

How did you get the gen dial?

eBay, I believe:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235784140616

 

[Recklays]

Need to see the purple one, so ready to pull the trigger !

 

[justachillguy]

What do you think would be an acceptable error rate for this movement? How many +- seconds/day? Anyone happens to know the gen rate?

 

[Paul Newman]

I think gens are certified to ±5 but I’ve never actually check it, anyway being a rep it depends a lot, timegrapher reads from TDs are not always the most accurate in real usage.

 

[JaceBeleren]

What do you think would be an acceptable error rate for this movement? How many +- seconds/day? Anyone happens to know the gen rate?

I would be happy with +- 20 secs per day. If you have a watch rotation where you wear a different watch each day you'll be setting the time on your watch for the day anyways, so +- 20 secs is fine.

Besides, even if you want more accuracy it's a very easy thing to do by yourself if you have a timegrapher (costs like $100) and are comfortable with opening the caseback.

You'll want to care a lot more about the amplitude of your watches for QC purposes, rate and beat error can easily be corrected at home.

 

[justachillguy]

I would be happy with +- 20 secs per day. If you have a watch rotation where you wear a different watch each day you'll be setting the time on your watch for the day anyways, so +- 20 secs is fine.

Besides, even if you want more accuracy it's a very easy thing to do by yourself if you have a timegrapher (costs like $100) and are comfortable with opening the caseback.

You'll want to care a lot more about the amplitude of your watches for QC purposes, rate and beat error can easily be corrected at home.

I’m planning to use the 26240 as a daily, wearing some other watch every now and then. This is my QC, you think it’s ok?

 

[aHero]

I’m planning to use the 26240 as a daily, wearing some other watch every now and then. This is my QC, you think it’s ok?

How to Read Timegrapher Results!

I have had a few member reaching out in regards to the timegraph and how to read it. Repost from RWG. Beat Number Frequency, the vibration of a movement. The number of balance wheel swings per hour or how many times the watch ticks per hour. This is a preset, depends on the watch you order...

forum.replica-watch.info

 

[JaceBeleren]

I’m planning to use the 26240 as a daily, wearing some other watch every now and then. This is my QC, you think it’s ok?

Amplitude is on the low end, maybe it wasn't fully wound up when put on the timegrapher. Ask them to rewind fully and then show you a timegrapher reading again. Sometimes that's what causes low amp readings rather than the mvt needing looking at. Also the +044 at the top line reading is concerning if you don't want to be opening it up yourself when you get it. Not in itself a reason to RL but maybe ask for the watch to be regulated.

 

[TagHeuerFan1963]

Amplitude is on the low end, maybe it wasn't fully wound up when put on the timegrapher. Ask them to rewind fully and then show you a timegrapher reading again. Sometimes that's what causes low amp readings rather than the mvt needing looking at. Also the +044 at the top line reading is concerning if you don't want to be opening it up yourself when you get it. Not in itself a reason to RL but maybe ask for the watch to be regulated.

What does the +044 indicate?

 

[justachillguy]

Good question, didn't even notice it... Does anyones who has been sent their QC has anything similar?

 

[JaceBeleren]

What does the +044 indicate?

The timegrapher gets its estimate for the rate over multiple different sections of the whole screen and then the final "Rate" it reports is an averaged out value over the last few sections (or at least that's what my timegrapher, admittedly a different model, does). I read the +044 as saying that over the last section the watch ran at an average rate of +44 seconds a day. But equally the gradient of the line for the portion that reads +019 (so +19 seconds a day) doesn't look much different from the gradient of the line in the +044 section (the gradient there should be around twice as much if this was a real difference) so maybe the +044 is just noise.

All in all this just goes to show that timegrapher values aren't necessarily accurate, and especially so for single pictures of the watch in a single position when the watch has very likely only recently been placed on the timegrapher (we know this because only a small portion of the screen shows a line rather than over the whole screen) because when you move the watch around it produces tiny forces on the components which resonate for a short while and these resonances are strong enough to mess up your readings when you want resolution at the level of seconds per day.

I personally wait at least 30 seconds after placing my watch on the timegrapher/changing its position to let the new numbers stabilize before recording them down.

 

[justachillguy]

Holy sh*t that's a wonderful explanation, thank you sir! I'll keep that in mind for future purchases. For now, I'll pray my AP will work just fine for me to enjoy it on a daily basis. It's already been shipped, so I'll be posting pics first thing when I get it.

 

[raremedium]

Any new arrivals?

 

[MasterWatch]

Rep (Obviously):

Gen:



A few observations based on these two pictures:

1. Side Profiles: The side profile of the Gen bracelet appears oblong, which likely makes it more flexible and better suited for smaller wrists. In contrast, the Rep bracelet has a more rectangular side profile, which could reduce its flexibility.

2. Number of Fixed Links: The Rep bracelet has 8 fixed links, whereas the Gen has 7. This is advantageous for individuals with larger wrists but might pose a challenge for those with smaller wrists, like me.

3. Bracelet Thickness: From the pictures, the Rep bracelet seems thinner than the Gen. However, a hands-on comparison is necessary to confirm this.

A Better Picture of the side profile of the Bracelet:



Here the links do appear to be slightly oblong but not as rounded as Gen.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Puretime is a multi-million dollar business that built up a lot of hype for this rep and cashed in taking pre-orders at a substantially higher price point than other dealers that are currently offering the same watch. I fully admire that from a capitalist standpoint, but I’m not sure that padding your profit margin with inflated prices should engender the level of loyalty you’re proposing here.

I’ve bought from puretime before, but I saved $150 on this ceramic watch with a different dealer. That’s how capitalism works, as well.

Mate, buying from wechatdealers would also saved you another 150 bucks

 

[MasterWatch]

Mate, buying from wechatdealers would also saved you another 150 bucks

True, but if you don’t find a trustworthy dealer, the headache and anxiety of dealing with a non-TD to save just $150–200 simply aren’t worth it for me.

I think the 10-20% premium I pay with a TD is like an insurance for whatever I am paying in a shady industry.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

True, but if you don’t find a trustworthy dealer, the headache and anxiety of dealing with a non-TD to save just $150–200 simply aren’t worth it for me.

I think the 10-20% premium I pay with a TD is like an insurance for whatever I am paying in a shady industry.

Its like in wvery industry, there are reputable names which have proof of service. Each his own.