"New" 382 ZFac V2 posted by Angus [[ QC pics ALLOWED]]

[psychom3]

http://puretime-asia.com/product/pa...n-kevlar-diving-strap-bronzo-buckle-p9000-v2/



Due to the interest of this watch
PAM 382 QC PICS WILL BE ALLOWED IN THIS THREAD to get info

ALE

 

[feloniousmonk]

Awesome! Thanks for the update! Will look forward to seeing reviews soon by those more knowledgeable than I.

 

[COLDI]

I really like the buckle

 

[ALE7575]

Makers are basing the improvements in the movement. Just to get another movement with no inverted layout but still very inaccurate and still with Balance wheel @11. How is supported the Incabloc system in the new movement. Becuase it seems that the original A7750 Balance cock is now missing. Will that be a reliable modification of the original A7750?

But there are a lot of things to be improved before to get a better replica !
-Bezel knurling either horizontal or vertical section
-Upper external polished edge of the bezel, size and finish
-Working of the rotating bezel
-Position and quality of minute markers on bezel
-Uneven height of the markers on bezel
-Thicker golden contours on stick and dot markers
-Alignment bezel-markers
-Pearl, shape and colour
-Horrible CP with contour
-Differences on lume colour of hands and markers
-CG chanfered corners
-Strap
-Definitive Chemical analysis of Bronze material to know the true material we are buying

We will see the final product because announcements are just prototypes

And we will see KW reaction, because there are also many things to do in KW version

Will we get some time a better PAM 382 Bronzo rep?

OMG. Current rep makers moves make non sense IMHO

ALE

 

[psychom3]

Makers are basing the improvements in the movement. Just to get another movement with no inverted layout but still very inaccurate and still with Balance wheel @11. How is supported the Incabloc system in the new movement. Becuase it seems that the original A7750 Balance cock is now missing. Will that be a reliable modification of the original A7750?

I do agree there are other things I would prefer that they address before the movement.

As for the balance cock is it possible that the original balance cock is there and just covered?

 

[feloniousmonk]

To me, it appears the A7750 balance cock is there, if perhaps shaved down a bit to be less visible. A thin sliver of balance cock is visible, partially obscured by the faux escape wheel. See this enlarged picture below of the new ZF P9000...

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Now compare to this picture of Eta 7750.

 

[Virpag]

To me, it appears the A7750 balance cock is there, if perhaps shaved down a bit to be less visible. A thin sliver of balance cock is visible, partially obscured by the faux escape wheel. See this enlarged picture below of the new ZF P9000...

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Now compare to this picture of Eta 7750.

This needs to be released and taken apart like the super clone movement to see actual I remember at first there's were doubts but when it was broken down it became apparent it was very close
For me the tweaks may be worth a upgrade purchase

 

[Norrie]

I do agree there are other things I would prefer that they address before the movement.

Each to their own but I'd rather have a watch that isn't a $480 paper weight 8 months down the track. All those tiny cosmetic updates can get to the back of the line.

 

[feloniousmonk]

Color of hand/pearl lume is very different from color of marker lume. This may be a deal-breaker for me.

 

[mitchbaria]

My ZF is at the modder in an attempt to address some of these issues..... for the immediate future it would seem more can be accomplished with mods then a complete upgrade......


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[psychom3]

Each to their own but I'd rather have a watch that isn't a $480 paper weight 8 months down the track. All those tiny cosmetic updates can get to the back of the line.

I think you missed my point. Everyone wants solid and stable movements. My point is I prefer time/money spent fixing the tells you can see when the watch is on vs spending effort fixing movement cosmetics. Further it seems there are times when movement cosmetics make stability worse, hence ALE's comments regarding the balance cock.

 

[Norrie]

Yeah, totally. I'm with you. Movement decorations aren't my thing either. Admittedly I don't know what a balance cock is. I thought ALE was saying that it may have an effect on reliability of the movements they put in these. ZF have done a better job so far on the cosmetics of the 382 but I still can't spend that kind of money after reading too many sorry stories about the ZF movements.

 

[ALE7575]

To me, it appears the A7750 balance cock is there, if perhaps shaved down a bit to be less visible. A thin sliver of balance cock is visible, partially obscured by the faux escape wheel. See this enlarged picture below of the new ZF P9000...

OK, feloniousmonk is right
It seems that the original Balance cock is just reduced to get less visible (like just a straight bar). The regulation system remains and is really visible
This reduction of balance cock weakens this bridge and I don't know how that will affect the working of the movement

ALE

 

[jamztio]

Hahah. That's why I said last time on this new movt thread that this time, they made a useless improvement to the movt. Layout is still wrong and now, more uncertain reliability.


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[takoxavy]

1) reliability > looks
2) I think that 90% of people around me don't know how a caseback of a pam should look like
3) just throw a ST2555 in and win

 

[kilowattore]

1) reliability > looks
2) I think that 90% of people around me don't know how a caseback of a pam should look like
3) just throw a ST2555 in and win

+ 1 billion

 

[PeterRei]

:facepalm: Looks like a car accident...

 

[TheDonSL]

I want that Kevlar strap for my KW


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[psychom3]

I want that Kevlar strap for my KW


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http://www.puretime-asia.com/product/panerai-2422-kevlar-diving-strap-with-bronzo-buckle/

He also has different sizes and stainless buckles listed also. Be aware they a HUGE on the wrist. For someone that can just barely carry off a 47mm Luminor it would be a bad choice, very cool if one has the wrists to make it work.

 

[Drkitch109]

The Kevlar straps are very long because they are meant to go over a diving suit rather than being sized for everyday use.

http://www.puretime-asia.com/product/panerai-2422-kevlar-diving-strap-with-bronzo-buckle/

He also has different sizes and stainless buckles listed also. Be aware they a HUGE on the wrist. For someone that can just barely carry off a 47mm Luminor it would be a bad choice, very cool if one has the wrists to make it work.