Need your help! I bought a fake 'genuine' 16610

[Dizzy]

they used to confiscate them 15-20 years ago. And that’s a fact. Policies may have changed since then.

Of course they’ll give it back. How would duped buyers or law enforcement move forward if they didn’t??? Ffs...

 

[WatchSmith.US]

Need movement pics!!

 

[BROGG]

The watch arrives today where I bought it from. I will ask him to send some pics of the movement, as I'm sure he will ikely be taking the caseback off!

 

[BROGG]

The watch arrives today where I bought it from. I will ask him to send some pics of the movement, as I'm sure he will likely be taking the caseback off.

 

[McPwn]

Center hand stack hole looks too big, maybe ETA movement?

The polish job looks bad, esp the CG look too pointed. Otherwise its pretty good, might be a franken of some sort. Date wheel and bezel insert look OK.

The other strange thing is that its a flat 'S' dial - those are uncommon in my experience. Were there even any reps with flat 'S' dials? I'd guess they'd be rare if there were any at all, or its a gen dial.

I also have the latest ARF 16610 and this is not it, unless it was frankened. The bold date wheel and bezel insert on the ARF are giveaways.

 

[BROGG]

Well the guy that sold it to me took it back to the place he acquired it from. They combed over it and came to the conclusion that it is a genuine watch and maybe just had some parts that weren't genuine? I wish I could have got some pics of the movement, but it is what it is. They said they won't sell it as a genuine or atleast be honest about the paperwork that is associated with the watch. Thanks for all the help guys! My eyes are wide open now!

 

[tripdog]

The case is rep, looks like a JF. Everything else looks gen, except the movement which isn't visible obviously.

 

[StreetFighter]

, except the movement which isn't visible obviously.

It's certainly NOT a 3135 clone that is 100% for sure. Look at the crown height..


This is a 2836 or something even thinner. The crown on a 3135 sits with 7 splines above the shoulders. A 2836 sits 5 splines high - like that one.

 

[tripdog]

It's certainly NOT a 3135 clone that is 100% for sure. Look at the crown height..


This is a 2836 or something even thinner. The crown on a 3135 sits with 7 splines above the shoulders. A 2836 sits 5 splines high - like that one.

Why the caps ?

I never said it was a 31350 clone, I said the case is rep, and it's impossible to determine what the movement is because it's not visible.

 

[StreetFighter]

I’m sure JF had a 3135 clone so it’s not JF.

Hard to believe it passed an inspection by the seller, if in doubt, there’s no doubt. I think the seller knew fine well it was a rep.