Need help identifying the factory of the 424

[TYL88]

Im interested in a 424, but couldnt find a new one on TDs. But i found a used 424 locally, the seller claimed its a ZF 424. I will need helps to identify which factory it is. Total newbie in the PAM world :-D

Here are the pics:













Thanks guys!

 

[KOT1917]

Yes, most likely ZF.

Another important thing is that local dealers often have stocks of watches they bought out, which are no longer produced by factories.
I really hope that you will be convinced that they really have these watches in stock, because the factories ZF, like SF, have not been producing panerai for a long time.
Just be careful.

 

[TYL88]

Hi KOT1917 thanks for the reply.
What are the major difference between the ZF and the SF.

And this watch used, so its not from a local dealer of sorts. And since im very new to the panerai watch, how reliable is the movement on the ZF?

Thanks!

 

[KOT1917]

Hi KOT1917 thanks for the reply.
What are the major difference between the ZF and the SF.

And this watch used, so its not from a local dealer of sorts. And since im very new to the panerai watch, how reliable is the movement on the ZF?

Thanks!

The main differences are in
-The lume color, zf is lighter, by the way, also with a strap.
- CP ZF always has a certain bulge with a characteristic "rim" in a circle, while CP SF is slightly smaller than gen, although made neat.
- Finally, the ZF has a Q series, and an O, while the SF seems to have only an O.
In O series, pam424 was produced with a date, so this is not correct for rep.

Also, both factories supplied them with different crystal options, I think it makes sense to clarify what it is made of, according to the seller.

Regarding clone p. 3000, like any other cloned movt. It may break tomorrow, or it may never.
There are complaints against him, but not often. The forum has specialists who can service and repair it.
My experience with this movt. Was positive, and the PR for almost a week was even excessive for me.

In any case, this is general information, there is a thread about https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...alifornia-love
There are those who know this model well, including the difference in the structure of the lume, and more photos.

 

[TYL88]

Thanks for the very detailed informative answer. I will do some reading of thr thread. Thats really helpful. Thanks a bunch mate. Much appreciated!

 

[ALE7575]

As above commented by KLOT this is a ZF version.
The movement is a P.3000 Clone4, see the position of the "jewels", and SF never launched this modekl with Clone 4, just Cone 1, 2 and 3
CP is also typical ZF

ALE

 

[TYL88]

ALE7575 Thanks for the confirmation, the watch arrived today. Very pleased with it. But i have another question, the minute hand looks bent near the end of the point. Is it normal? Its hard to take pic of it, but in real life u can see it quite clearly. So it looks like theres a sloped from the centre to the end of the pointed hand. The pointed hand looks much higher than the middle part.
Heres the pic:




Thanks!


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[KOT1917]

No, the hand is just crooked (bent).

 

[TYL88]

Aww.. Any idea where to get a new set of hands? They arent in the best shape either

 

[KOT1917]

I would try to straighten the existing ones, or give it to someone who can do it.

I really like the ZF arms, they are well made and have a sense of volume. You may not get this on AM.

Now the following are on sale:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/panerai/9766398-radiomirs-449-448-425-424-available

I heard that Trusty is able to sell some spare parts, possibly hands. If not, you will have to look for parts from homage manufacturers.

Yes, I also have to mention that everything is based on the statements of the participants who said that the arms of the p.3000 clone are the same in footprints from 6497. I myself have not tested this.

 

[TYL88]

I just tried to open the movement, and i think the stem screw is stripped lol. Now the stem is loose. Need to send it to a modder lol.

Where do i find the homage manufacturers? Maybe i could find a nice dial and hands from them too.

Thanks!

 

[ALE7575]

I think you both have reason.
The hand is crooked at the point (you can see it in the pics) and the hand is climbing from the center to the point, hand shadow on dial confirms this point.

In my opinion a friend watchsmith can fix easily this problem.

Good luck

ALE

 

[TYL88]

Yes, just sent it to a modder locally to get it fixed. Thanks mate ALE7575