I have a question about B, for those with some 6497 knowledge. It is actually a pic taken from a sales thread over on RG. The seller had stated that the movement was genuine, but didn't mention that the shock assembly had been replaced with a Swiss one. It also seems that another wheel or two are Swiss replacement parts, not Gen.
So what I would like to know, is how can one tell the rest of the movement is actually gen. Is it just the top pate decorations, and the decorations on the base, that you are looking at to tell it apart from rep movements?
Also, what would you suggest I do to my movement (E), to make it closer to one found in an 036?
Well that person wasn't telling the truth, and to be honest it's easy to fool 95% of rep collectors when it comes to these mov'ts and variations.
The only thing 'genuine' about that mov't is that it's based on a Swiss ETA 6497-1 17.6 mov't ebauche, before Asian factories swapped the bridges with the decorated ones. That's the ONLY Asian bit added to this mov't, so even though it isn't gen Panerai/SOPROD mov't it's still the one I would love to have ticking in my Panerai rep.
The way to tell the bph diff is to look closely at the hour wheel teeth, the faster one will have more teeth which will look more denser along the edge of the wheel. This is one of the trademarks of a faster ETA6497-2 mov't, over the 6497-1 one. Also the 6497-2 mov't on its own (if you can find one anymore that is) used to be priced retail in excess of $450, while 6497-1 under $100.
To answer the second part of your question about E mov't...not sure how far you wan't to take it, but it will have to be quite a lot done to it to make it close looking to 'F' one for example.
- Main wheels lack bevel, and preferably blued screws (but the latter isn't a requirement as gen Panerai used to come with both in the past)
- bridge plates are still glued-on, so are 99% of other square-plate rep mov'ts , so best to leave them as is
- metal ring (circle) around the anti-shock jewel assembly shouldn't be solid/full
Other stuff is just fine and OK.
cheers!
B. is actually a genuine movement (or so the seller and his watch smith say), with a Swiss shock assembly put in. It was part of a franken (rep case and crown?) 036 that just sold on RG.
Only the bridges on the B mov't are/could be the genuine, I could agree that much with that person's statements.
Everything else including the drive train is standard non-Panerai Swiss ETA 6497-1 slower 17.6bph, as well as the escapement as you mentioned.
