Misaligned Dial, What to Do?

[Dowbs]

Yes its fixable. Just cut off the dial feet and twist it and affix with dots. Your watchmaker is a pussy.

This was my first thought as well, but then it occurred to me, wouldn't the hole in the dial for the PR pin be misaligned if the dial was rotated? That might be the major hitching point here.

I'd try moving the entire dial/movement first as suggested, being that it is the most non-destructive option.

 

[rj999]

He just looked and decided not to bother with it.

Well then, the choice is yours. Buy yourself a reasonable set of watchmakers screwdrivers, a loupe magnifier and a suitable back removal tool, there are many threads on this topic. Take the back off and identify the screws that hold the movement in place,. Slacken but don't remove them and see if you can rotate the movement a bit. Or find a more rep friendly watch repairer and get him to do it. Read around the forum to get the idea of how watches fit together to build up your confidence! Check the relevant subforum.

 

[santela]

Well then, the choice is yours. Buy yourself a reasonable set of watchmakers screwdrivers, a loupe magnifier and a suitable back removal tool, there are many threads on this topic. Take the back off and identify the screws that hold the movement in place,. Slacken but don't remove them and see if you can rotate the movement a bit. Or find a more rep friendly watch repairer and get him to do it. Read around the forum to get the idea of how watches fit together to build up your confidence! Check the relevant subforum.

Thanks for the advice. He wasn't bothered that it's a rep, he just didn't think it's fixable. I'm not confident enough to do this myself, so I'm gonna look for a different watchmaker.

 

[santela]

This was my first thought as well, but then it occurred to me, wouldn't the hole in the dial for the PR pin be misaligned if the dial was rotated? That might be the major hitching point here.

I'd try moving the entire dial/movement first as suggested, being that it is the most non-destructive option.

Yeah I think with the PR being there it won't be possible to only rotate the dial. I'm gonna try to get a watchmaker to rotate the whole thing a bit.

 

[santela]

Just to update everyone who's been trying to help, I took the watch to another watchmaker and he opened it up. The movement is actually quite tightly fitted and there's no wiggle room to work with. I think I'm out of options. He also scratched my case back a couple of times damnit.

 

[John_Mary]

to update everyone who's been trying to help, I took the watch to another watchmaker and he opened it up. The movement is actually quite tightly fitted and there's no wiggle room to work with. I think I'm out of options. He also scratched my case back a couple of times damnit.

Hey, I know it's been a while since you posted this, but just wanted to see if you have any update or solution? I'm having the same issue with my PAM111's dial being slightly crooked..

 

[Art Tic]

How can you tell the PAM111 dial is crooked? Excuse my old eyes. Did you draw vertical and perpendicular horizontal lines, bisecting the crown and midpoints of the top/bottom lugs?

 

[John_Mary]

How can you tell the PAM111 dial is crooked? Excuse my old eyes. Did you draw vertical and perpendicular horizontal lines, bisecting the crown and midpoints of the top/bottom lugs?

I tried to capture it as straight as possible with a tripod and a long lens to avoid distortions, then I straightened the photo with photoshop to make sure everything is accurate. What do you use to draw the lines, find midpoints, etc.?

The dial is just a tad crooked to the right every so slightly, not as bad as the LPP above. Doesn't look too too bad in the photo but it's actually more obvious in real life, i had a hard time trying to capture it.

I'm not sure if this is a common issue or it is just me, and I'm being an ass expecting too much from a rep....This is my first rep and i couldnt find anyone having the same problem with Noob 111v4s on this forum.

 

[Art Tic]

I think I see it, and to be honest I would probably never noticed if you hadn't point it out.
Well, it may be as simple as loosing the mounting screws and fraction-of-a-millimeter tweaking the movement alignment, or...? Keep in mind that you may create stress on the watch stem, and that may lead to mechanical issue/failure. If the watch runs good, I'd leave well enough alone.

 

[John_Mary]

I think I see it, and to be honest I would probably never noticed if you hadn't point it out.
Well, it may be as simple as loosing the mounting screws and fraction-of-a-millimeter tweaking the movement alignment, or...? Keep in mind that you may create stress on the watch stem, and that may lead to mechanical issue/failure. If the watch runs good, I'd leave well enough alone.

Thank you for the suggestion. I think I'm gonna leave it alone. The person who sold me the watch just got back to me saying that I can send it back to him and he'll see if he can find a better one and send it to me.
Thanks for the help!

 

[Strodda]

Hey, I know it's been a while since you posted this, but just wanted to see if you have any update or solution? I'm having the same issue with my PAM111's dial being slightly crooked..

It does look very slightly off center, clockwise. It wouldn't take much, worst case you could widen the second hand hole a bit, so while shifting the dial, the hand doesn't rub against the dial.

 

[John_Mary]

It does look very slightly off center, clockwise. It wouldn't take much, worst case you could widen the second hand hole a bit, so while shifting the dial, the hand doesn't rub against the dial.

Very interesting, I never thought of that, that would absolutely work, the second would cover the widen hold so it wouldnt be visible. But you're right, last resort considering the work that needs to be done. I'd probably break the watch trying to pull that off with my "skillful" hands. So I think I made the right decision sending it back to the dealer in exchange for a different one.
Thanks for the input Strodda.