bklm1234 said:
Bigshooter said:
Pugwash said:
vmena said:
Now, if MBW also sold TW-Best subs, then that's a different story and a different watch. It's all very confusing, see.
The MBW dealer I know lists a China, Taiwan Best and an MBW.
Are you talking about George?
I looked at George TW stuff. I don't think it's TW Best though. They don't look very good.
-bm
The picture on George's site of the MBW LV is the LV George sold to me. You are right, it is not a TW best per se, but to be truthfull, I am not really sure what it started out as (it does say "polex" between the lugs). I sought out and bought this watch for a project to make a true "perfect sub" The reason I went for MBW is because of the case - (rehaut and type of metal)
To be really honest, the dial on that watch isn't very good. It has the old "swiss made" at the bottom of the dial that only covers three ticks instead of five, the triangle marker at twelve is the wrong size (too small), the date font is too bold and the cyclops is a little weak. In order to get the watch "perfect" I am going to have the dial replaced and relumed, the crown & tube replaced with Gen, the crown guards reshaped, the bezel insert replaced (although this watch came with a very good insert and pearl), the date wheel replaced and the cyclops replaced.
The main reason to start with a MBW is the case. Almost ALL of the current 16610 versions out there have one major flaw that the MBW does not have, - the overall case thickness ( top of crystal to back of case) and thickness of the lugs (you can see this when you look at the watch sideways). A Gen 16610 is aprox 13mm thick. Most reps are 12 -12.5mm thick. I have measured some TW best that are 14mm+ thick. The MBW comes in at 13.5mm. Even though it is not exact as Gen, if you are around people who wear Gen 16610's, and for whatever reason, where I work that is the watch to have, you can easily see that the Gen sits higher on a wearers wrist than most Rep subs. The MBW captures the correct look almost perfectly. Also, the other dead give away is crystal hieght. With the MBW you can obtain the correct hieght of crystal sticking above the bezel insert. Again, most rep 16610 have the crystal way too low (almost flush with the bezel insert). The crystal hieght should be about 1mm above the bezel insert.
I know there are scoffers that say "No way, you can not see 1mm," but trust me, 1mm here and 1mm there and the next thing you are saying is "I don't know what is wrong, but something doesn't look right."
The type of watch I am building is not to say it is same as Gen - it will always be a rep. I just enjoy the challenge and research to come up with the "Ultimate Rep" When this watch is done I will post some pictures. I have obtained the new dial, date wheel, cyclops, Gen crown & tube and bezel insert. I am now just waiting to save the finances up in order to pay for the relume & crown work. (I have wrecked enough watches to know better than to try this type of work!)
Anyways, hoped my research into this has helped a little.
Stay tuned...