Luminor GMT 29/63 owners??

[supermanx]

and the magnification is weak on this rep. If you want a really good workhorse, go for ETA2893 version. That will set you back at least 450USD.

I sold mine months ago with a SS band and a couple straps for $600 on this board... Last 029 I seen with 2982/3 movement went for ~$500 just the watch (if I remember correctly).

At that time the watch was no longer available from the dealers, been there and done that so I have no idea what the status of the watch is now.

 

[skcheng]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the 2836 was modified to jump hours on the 2nd hour hand? Or is that only on the 2893? Has there been reliability issues with the 2836, or is the sweeping 2nd hour hand the only issue with this movement?

Thanks for all of your help!! Right now everything I currently own is based on the 6497 movement which I've beaten to death. I'm looking for next project to fool around with

 

[supermanx]

Never had 2836, but from my memory:
2836: gmt hand sweeps and sweep set, some people had issue where the gmt hand would occasionally slip, so if they kept it on a winder after a few days the gmt hand might be a 1/4 hour off. Not a huge deal, some people have said the extra gmt mod makes a the 2836 a little unreliable in the long run but I haven't heard of that many people with problems. This is readily available and at a decent price.

289X: Same base as gen, jump hour... But quite a few were set with the gmt hand a little off the hour mark (so at 12:00 your gmt hand would be pointing at 12 1/8. Because of the jump hour set you couldn't fix this without having the hands removed and reset correctly. This model with correct hand set (the reps hands are too long), a new datewheel (there was a project over at rwg dont know what happened), a new date mag, and a better crown, would be perfect. This model was not available from dealers 6 months ago and resale was VERY high (not sure on current status)... I haven't seen one listed in a while (but I don't pay close attention as it doens't intrest me anymore).

 

[ssalxpanerai]

It sweeps when setting on 2836 but jump on 2893 or 7750.

Thank you very much Takeshi for your confirmation. Since the 2893 is the same as the gen one, so I think the jumping hour should be correct as gen operation.

 

[ssalxpanerai]

289X: Same base as gen, jump hour... But quite a few were set with the gmt hand a little off the hour mark (so at 12:00 your gmt hand would be pointing at 12 1/8. Because of the jump hour set you couldn't fix this without having the hands removed and reset correctly. This model with correct hand set (the reps hands are too long), a new datewheel (there was a project over at rwg dont know what happened), a new date mag, and a better crown, would be perfect. This model was not available from dealers 6 months ago and resale was VERY high (not sure on current status)... I haven't seen one listed in a while (but I don't pay close attention as it doens't intrest me anymore).

You are correct for the hand position. Fortunately the watch smith shop I had the service, they did it for me free of charge. All the hands are pulled out and reset back to the correct position. It is perfect since then.

 

[skcheng]

GMT Hands

Hey Guys,

I think that a few people make the correct GMT hands. Davidsen for one. Also, the SS thicker crown is readily available.

Is there a source for a better magnifying cyclops AR coated crystal?

I don't mind if the 2nd hour hand sweeps if it's easier to adjust. And if the ETA 2836 movement is robust, I'll gladly settle for it!!

 

[supermanx]

I would make sure the hands are correct, they are not interchangable between the 029 and 063 (although the rep makers use the same hands for both)... The 063 hands are about a mm shorter because the gmt numbers are on the dial not the bezel like the 029. Hands on the 029 are the correct length.

 

[AWS]

....how about the eta2892..will that fit into the pam 29?...this topic has been most helpful...thanks fellas
....cheers,aws.

 

[takashi]

ETA2892 has no GMT function. ETA2893 has it.

 

[AWS]

oh ok, isee... thanks taka! :lol:

 

[VirginiaWatchFan]

I would make sure the hands are correct, they are not interchangable between the 029 and 063 (although the rep makers use the same hands for both)... The 063 hands are about a mm shorter because the gmt numbers are on the dial not the bezel like the 029. Hands on the 029 are the correct length.

Believe it or not, this is NOT the reason why the hands on the rep 63 are too long when compared to the genuine. The actual cause is that the numbers on the dial are printed slightly more "inward" toward the center on the rep. This creates the illusion that the hands are about 1 mm too long. Believe me when I say this... my 63 has gen hands installed and they are still just a wee bit too long. The only way to fix the problem would be to have custom-made hands that are actually shorter to account for the printing differences.

I will say this: with the date wheel fix, the crown fix, the cyclops fix, the lume fix and the gen hands, you are going to be VERY hard pressed to tell the difference between the rep and the gen.

 

[takashi]

How to obtain the gen hands?

 

[VirginiaWatchFan]

How to obtain the gen hands?

Watch the 'bay, my friend! They are much, much, much better finished than the rep hands -- no comparison. But they are very expensive, as well.

 

[supermanx]

How to obtain the gen hands?

Watch the 'bay, my friend! They are much, much, much better finished than the rep hands -- no comparison. But they are very expensive, as well.

Yes VERY expensive. You might be right about the dial print, but your gen hands are shorter then the reps hands correct?

 

[VirginiaWatchFan]

How to obtain the gen hands?

Watch the 'bay, my friend! They are much, much, much better finished than the rep hands -- no comparison. But they are very expensive, as well.

Yes VERY expensive. You might be right about the dial print, but your gen hands are shorter then the reps hands correct?

Yes, a little. I've got a couple pictures that are perfect illustrations of what I mean. If I email them will someone post them?

 

[skcheng]

Bay'ed GMT hands

I just checked into the GEN hands on the "bay". $289??? Wow!!!

Has anyone purchased these? The price seems a bit exorbitant. I would get some if they were say $100.....

 

[takashi]

:shock: 289 for hands is just no go for me... I am diverting this money to get this:

 

[vaccum]

I'm curious since Sir Vacuum can now tweak the ETA 2836 movement on the Lum GMT. I just don't know if the dial/hands etc.. look nice?

Yes i can!

 

[guru]

Happy T ...I totally agree what you say...when I joined here, I owned 8 reps and I did not know whart Panerai stands for.....now I will have 4 in my house and I do not care about the small flaws.

Think about it...... if you have to ask about it how is 98% of the people in the world that hasn't even heard of a Pam much less know the intricate differences of the different models ever going to know? :wink:

Unless you're hanging out with gen watch wis's this model is fine as is and will get many ohhs and ahhs... if its noticed at all. With that said, I'm sending my 2892 for a new cyclops and superlume...... haven' decided if I care to mod it much more than that. I could care less about things that will never be noticed by 99.99% of people such as the size of the crown.

I love mine.

 

[skcheng]

Crown

It's much easier to wind the thicker crown

I guess no one has a nice AR coated correct cyclops dial for the PAM 29/63??