I just want to have a rant on my recent experience on a gen forum
Here is a thread I have posted there which gives a brief overview: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f63/i-think-ive-just-been-scammed-2156906.html#post18569161
Basically I bought a gen speedmaster case, dial, hands and a 861 movement with old dial and hands attached for $1800 from a seller on watchuseek, what I received was a dirty old box (with lots of dust, hair and crap) which only contained omega seamaster diver manual, small plastic box with some watch parts (lemania blank dial, movement dust cover, a gear and some tips for hand setting tools).
He didn't reply my PM and on watchuseek apparently you don't contact a mod/admin, the guide says to post in the feedback thread and then report the post to a mod, which I did.
After a few days the seller replies (apparently he was away) but all he does is pretty much say he has a good reputation, sold loads before, so my accusations where false. He did not reply my PMs, did not contact me to try get more information to find out what is going on and pretty much just ignored me.
Even the admin who replied my post says the seller is being disingenuous as he is ignoring the questions I am directing at him.
I got in touch with the admin and it turns out the admin had been PMing the seller who was side stepping the questions the admin was asking him, until the admin gave him an ultimatum at which point he said he sent me the 861 movement, dial and hands. slight problem there, in total he should have sent me a case, a movement and two sets of dials and hands. Anyway I've given all the details to the admin who is hopefully doing something about this.
I just can't believe this is happening, I thought I would be able to trust someone who had a decent reputation, but it seems like there is always a chance given the opportunity is tempting enough that they will try scamming. The seller actually said "We have sold many expensive items here , on Ebay and Omega forums , why do it for a low amount ? And why now ? WHY ?"
Well to me it looks like he thought it would be an easy opportunity to scam me, he has decent reputation , is active and has sold a lot on watchuseek, vs me who only had a couple of posts. I had really hoped it was just an honest mistake and he sent me the wrong box or some simple explanation, but the fact he is ignoring me, and sidestepping the admin's questions does not looks good, it does not look like he is going to cooperate in getting this resolved.
luckily I had not paid by gift, but the case is with paypal now and they are reviewing it which can take up to 30 days and I have no idea how they will make a decision on this..
Here is a thread I have posted there which gives a brief overview: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f63/i-think-ive-just-been-scammed-2156906.html#post18569161
Basically I bought a gen speedmaster case, dial, hands and a 861 movement with old dial and hands attached for $1800 from a seller on watchuseek, what I received was a dirty old box (with lots of dust, hair and crap) which only contained omega seamaster diver manual, small plastic box with some watch parts (lemania blank dial, movement dust cover, a gear and some tips for hand setting tools).
He didn't reply my PM and on watchuseek apparently you don't contact a mod/admin, the guide says to post in the feedback thread and then report the post to a mod, which I did.
After a few days the seller replies (apparently he was away) but all he does is pretty much say he has a good reputation, sold loads before, so my accusations where false. He did not reply my PMs, did not contact me to try get more information to find out what is going on and pretty much just ignored me.
Even the admin who replied my post says the seller is being disingenuous as he is ignoring the questions I am directing at him.
I got in touch with the admin and it turns out the admin had been PMing the seller who was side stepping the questions the admin was asking him, until the admin gave him an ultimatum at which point he said he sent me the 861 movement, dial and hands. slight problem there, in total he should have sent me a case, a movement and two sets of dials and hands. Anyway I've given all the details to the admin who is hopefully doing something about this.
I just can't believe this is happening, I thought I would be able to trust someone who had a decent reputation, but it seems like there is always a chance given the opportunity is tempting enough that they will try scamming. The seller actually said "We have sold many expensive items here , on Ebay and Omega forums , why do it for a low amount ? And why now ? WHY ?"
Well to me it looks like he thought it would be an easy opportunity to scam me, he has decent reputation , is active and has sold a lot on watchuseek, vs me who only had a couple of posts. I had really hoped it was just an honest mistake and he sent me the wrong box or some simple explanation, but the fact he is ignoring me, and sidestepping the admin's questions does not looks good, it does not look like he is going to cooperate in getting this resolved.
luckily I had not paid by gift, but the case is with paypal now and they are reviewing it which can take up to 30 days and I have no idea how they will make a decision on this..