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Looking to buy my first PAM 111

raef02

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Hello everyone!

I'm a newbie here and I'm looking to buy my first PAM 111 rep and been doing a lot of research about what and where to buy. I know that seems to be latest version is the V4 noob. Is that the best one to buy now? Where would be the best place to buy it? Chazing time, Intime, TS? Can anyone provide links? Thank you very much in advance. Looking forward to getting my PAM 111 Rep.
 

bangsters

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Hey there. Welcome to the forum. For pam 111 noob v4 is supposed to be the latest, however you are more likely to get a v3/v4 mixture of parts, just like everyone here. Some parts remain v3 but you do get the y incabloc and other v4 enhancements.

For TD, there is chazingtime, puretime, toroo, and a bunch of other guys that can source your watch.

Goodluck and keep us posted.

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raef02

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Thanks for the response. While browsing the forum, I came across a sale by Toro for a 411, 415 etc. for $129. Seems to be a good deal. While there, I checked out the site for a PAM111 and saw a special from H factory for $158. Is that any good?


Hey there. Welcome to the forum. For pam 111 noob v4 is supposed to be the latest, however you are more likely to get a v3/v4 mixture of parts, just like everyone here. Some parts remain v3 but you do get the y incabloc and other v4 enhancements.

For TD, there is chazingtime, puretime, toroo, and a bunch of other guys that can source your watch.

Goodluck and keep us posted.

Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
 

mysterio

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Thanks for the response. While browsing the forum, I came across a sale by Toro for a 411, 415 etc. for $129. Seems to be a good deal. While there, I checked out the site for a PAM111 and saw a special from H factory for $158. Is that any good?

It's an earlier (and older) release. Compared to the KW PAM411, 415, etc for 29$ less, it just loses as there are more accurate versions of the PAM111 available.
 

raef02

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Got it! Thanks for the info. Where would you suggest to buy a nice REP noob version of the PAM111?

It's an earlier (and older) release. Compared to the KW PAM411, 415, etc for 29$ less, it just loses as there are more accurate versions of the PAM111 available.
 

wowsasb

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PAM 111 is a really great rep through pretty much all the versions.
 

bangsters

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Are you strictly in search of just 111 or other pams as longs as super rep?

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raef02

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I'm not really locked in to the PAM111, the reason why I said that because it seems to be what everyone is recommending for a first super rep. If you can recommend other super reps that would be great!

Are you strictly in search of just 111 or other pams as longs as super rep?

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I'm not really locked in to the PAM111, the reason why I said that because it seems to be what everyone is recommending for a first super rep. If you can recommend other super reps that would be great!
Yea i agree. My first rep was a pam 111 bk v4. Then sold it. If you like the 1950 case try the 312 it's an awesome rep. For luminor case like 111 you can also try 005 or 171 or 088, all good reps IMO, and 088 and 005 are closed casebacks.

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raef02

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Appreciate your input. The 312 does also look good. Would also consider that. I really like the open casebacks though. So I think for my first one, it will be an open caseback.

Yea i agree. My first rep was a pam 111 bk v4. Then sold it. If you like the 1950 case try the 312 it's an awesome rep. For luminor case like 111 you can also try 005 or 171 or 088, all good reps IMO, and 088 and 005 are closed casebacks.

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bangsters

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Yea i agree. My first rep was a pam 111 bk v4. Then sold it. If you like the 1950 case try the 312 it's an awesome rep. For luminor case like 111 you can also try 005 or 171 or 088, all good reps IMO, and 088 and 005 are closed casebacks.

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Yea for open caseback 111 v4 is a winner. 312 is open caseback as well, and the vsf is very close. I have one and it feels like a gen.

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Yea i agree. My first rep was a pam 111 bk v4. Then sold it. If you like the 1950 case try the 312 it's an awesome rep. For luminor case like 111 you can also try 005 or 171 or 088, all good reps IMO, and 088 and 005 are closed casebacks.


I just ordered a bk 111, what did you think about it? I'm going to pick up a gen strap for it.
 

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I believe the bk 111 v4 is a noob v4 with some touches from bk. It's an awesome watch.

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I just received my PAM111 Noob "v4" and it's great! I sent a picture of the front and back to a jeweler friend of mine who knew I was buying a replica, and he put it to a test unbeknownst to me. He took the 2 pictures and posted them on a watch trading group on Facebook under the guise of "I'm being offered this watch, is it legit?" I thought it would be picked out as a replica immediately since he put up a picture of the back. To mine and his surprise, it took a 30+ year watch veteran to call it a fake, only because the pin on the crown screw guard was sticking out a bit. Everybody else was on the fence! There were a few "I don't like xxx about it, but I'm not sure" and one person chimed in thinking it was a genuine. So, the only real tell from the 2 pictures was the crown guard pin. Granted, if these industry veterans had is in their hand to closely scrutinize, it would be a different story., The point I'm making here is under normal circumstances once I bring the pin flush, it's indistinguishable from the genuine while on the wrist. Nobody called out the strap, the dial, hands, case, just the pin. I'm truly amazed at that response! I'd say this is clearly why it's considered a "Super Rep"

So, all that being said, I'm assuming getting the pin flush is a matter of pressing it down a bit further with the right tools, anybody have any other tips?

Also, the blue fill of the Officine Panerai engraving on the movement is missing a small piece, has anybody had to fix that? I saw this in the QC photos, but I was so anxious to get the watch that I didn't care much about it since its only a flaw off the wrist when looks at very closely.

I haven't had the time to take some good pictures of it yet, I'll get to that this weekend.
 

raef02

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Sounds like a really great rep. Congrats! If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy it from?

I just received my PAM111 Noob "v4" and it's great! I sent a picture of the front and back to a jeweler friend of mine who knew I was buying a replica, and he put it to a test unbeknownst to me. He took the 2 pictures and posted them on a watch trading group on Facebook under the guise of "I'm being offered this watch, is it legit?" I thought it would be picked out as a replica immediately since he put up a picture of the back. To mine and his surprise, it took a 30+ year watch veteran to call it a fake, only because the pin on the crown screw guard was sticking out a bit. Everybody else was on the fence! There were a few "I don't like xxx about it, but I'm not sure" and one person chimed in thinking it was a genuine. So, the only real tell from the 2 pictures was the crown guard pin. Granted, if these industry veterans had is in their hand to closely scrutinize, it would be a different story., The point I'm making here is under normal circumstances once I bring the pin flush, it's indistinguishable from the genuine while on the wrist. Nobody called out the strap, the dial, hands, case, just the pin. I'm truly amazed at that response! I'd say this is clearly why it's considered a "Super Rep"

So, all that being said, I'm assuming getting the pin flush is a matter of pressing it down a bit further with the right tools, anybody have any other tips?

Also, the blue fill of the Officine Panerai engraving on the movement is missing a small piece, has anybody had to fix that? I saw this in the QC photos, but I was so anxious to get the watch that I didn't care much about it since its only a flaw off the wrist when looks at very closely.

I haven't had the time to take some good pictures of it yet, I'll get to that this weekend.