List of popular movements found in rep watches

[cbx1100]

So wee written and researched. Should be required reading. It would shorten the questions forums!

 

[wisedennis]

Is the superclone 3235 different than the 3135? Every watch I look at on JTime has this as the movement.

3235 has a larger power reserve and a bit larger than a 3135. Typically 3235 fits into 12Xxxx watches while 3135 fits into 11xxxx 6 digits Rolex.

 

[wisedennis]

V2023.9.26 updates: added 4 comparison and ranking pictures of the movements.

 

[Che6163]

wow thats a lot of sorting. thank you for the effort!

 

[Beach boy]

Loving this post on rep watch movements,enjoyable read

 

[Beach boy]

Great page I’ve referred to this a few times

 

[wisedennis]

The key number to concern yourself with during movement QC is amplitude. Amplitude is an indicator of four things:

1. how well the parts of the movement were manufactured.
2. how well these parts were assembled.
3. how clean the parts were when they were assembled.
4. was proper lubrication applied during assembly.

All of the factors above will affect the watch’s amplitude. Low amplitude is an indicator that the movement is not well made, not well assembled, not clean, or not properly lubricated.

Lift Angles of some common movements:

• ETA 2824 — 50 degrees
• ETA 2836 — 50 degrees
• Rolex 3135 — 52 degrees
• Rolex 3187 — 52 degrees
• Rolex 3235 — 53 or 55 degrees (55 for vs3235)
• Rolex 4130 — 52 degrees
• Miyota 9015 — 51 degrees
• Patek 324SC — 51 degrees
• Patek 240 — (I don’t know, if you do please comment)
• AP 3120 — 53 degrees

(Another good post from Reddit)

 

[lordoc00]

thanks a lot. checking my reps to decide if service them or not

 

[BWillie]

I am always worried the movement will give it away on my John Mayer Daytona. I almost want to shut off the movement lol

 

[BWillie]

How good are the rep movements in general compared to gen? To a trained eye can that be a giveaway or not really

 

[dpd3672]

How good are the rep movements in general compared to gen? To a trained eye can that be a giveaway or not really

A trained eye…like a watchsmith that works on a lot of gens…might catch a rep, but most watch aficionados couldn’t tell a good rep movement from Gen.

Unless they’re into reps, in which case they’d probably ask what factory it’s from.

 

[watchguySF]

What does it mean DD? I had a watchmaker ask me if my 3285 was DD?

 

[dogwood]

What does it mean DD? I had a watchmaker ask me if my 3285 was DD?

See the “Naming Conventions” section of the comprehensive guide to Rolex rep movements.

Comprehensive Guide to Clone Movements Found in Rolex Reps

Change Log: August 25th 2022 - Initial version published on r/RepTime March 9th 2023 - Updated version published on RWI. Updated to include information about the new SH3285 found in C+ Factory GMTs and DD3285 found in Clean Factory GMTs. March 14th 2023 - Update to include a link to Steve's...

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[watchguySF]

See the “Naming Conventions” section of the comprehensive guide to Rolex rep movements.

Comprehensive Guide to Clone Movements Found in Rolex Reps

Change Log: August 25th 2022 - Initial version published on r/RepTime March 9th 2023 - Updated version published on RWI. Updated to include information about the new SH3285 found in C+ Factory GMTs and DD3285 found in Clean Factory GMTs. March 14th 2023 - Update to include a link to Steve's...

forum.replica-watch.info

Thank you very much. So much to know!!! I appreciate the help

 

[wisedennis]

List of Pam’s Ebauche ​

• Panerai OP I (1997-2001) - ETA 6497-2, seconds hand not used
• Panerai OP II (1997-2001) - ETA 6497-2
• Panerai OP III (1998-present) - Valjoux 7750-P1 with chronograph not used
• Panerai OP IV (1999-2003) - Zenith El Primero
• Panerai OP V (1999,2002) - Frédéric PiguetFP 1185
• Panerai OP VI (2000) - Zenith El Primero
• Panerai OP VII (2000-2004) - Zenith 680 Elite
• Panerai OP VIII (2001-present) - Valjoux 7750-P1 with timezone display, chronograph not used
• Panerai OP IX (2001-present) - Valjoux 7750-P1 with power reserve display, chronograph not used
• Panerai OP X (2002-present) - ETA 6497-2with swan neck regulator, seconds hand not used
• Panerai OP XI (2002-present) - ETA 6497-2with swan neck regulator
• Panerai OP XII (2003-2011) - Valjoux 7753
• Panerai OP XIII (2002-2006) - Jaeger-LeCoultre 897
• Panerai OP XIV (2004-2006) - Jaeger-LeCoultre 877
• Panerai OP XV (2007) - Valjoux 7750-P1with electronic bathometer
• Panerai OP XVI (2004-2005) - Lemania 1872
• Panerai OP XVII (2006) - Quartz
• Panerai OP XVIII (2005-2010) - La Joux-Perret 8150
• Panerai OP XIX (2005-2011) - Valjoux by La Joux-Perret
• Panerai OP XX - Panerai exclusive marine chronometer
• Panerai OP XXI (2006,2008,2010) - La Joux-Perret 8952 (Based on Valjoux 7750)
• Panerai OP XXII (2007) - Valjoux 7750-P1base with Agenhor perpetual calendar module
• Panerai OP XXIII (2007-2009) - ETA 2894-A2
• Panerai OP XXIV (2007-2010) - La Joux-Perret 5900 (AS 5008) alarm
• Panerai OP XXV (2010,2014,2015) - Minerva 13-22
• Panerai OP XXVI (2008) - Valjoux 7750-P1base with regatta chronograph module
• Panerai OP XXVII (2008,2010,2012) - Minerva 16-29
• Panerai OP XXVIII (2008) - Minerva 13-20
• Panerai OP XXIX (2009) - Unitas 6497-1
  

 

[wisedennis]

List of Pam In-house:

In-House Movements​

• Panerai P.2002 (2005-) - 8 days GMT hand-wound
  • Panerai P.2002/1 (2006-) - GMT, day/night
  • Panerai P.2002/2 (2006-) - GMT, day/night, power reserve indicator
  • Panerai P.2002/3 (2006-) - No GMT, power reserve
  • Panerai P.2002/7 (2009-) - Sub seconds
  • Panerai P.2002/9 (2010-) - Sub seconds, date
  • Panerai P.2002/10 (2012-) - Sub seconds, date, GMT, 24 hour indicator
  • Panerai P.2002/E (2015-)
• Panerai P.2003 (2006-) - 10 days GMT automatic
  • Panerai P.2003/5 (200 - Circular power reserve indicator
  • Panerai P.2003/6 (2012-) - Circular power reserve indicator, 24 hour indicator
• • Panerai P.2004 (2006-) - 8 days, GMT, 24 hour indicator, column wheel chronograph hand-wound
  • Panerai P.2004/1 (2006-) - Day/night indicator
  • Panerai P.2004/5 (2006-)
  • Panerai P.2004/6 (200 - Day/night indicator
  • Panerai P.2004/9 (2011-) - Mono-pusherchronograph, power reserve indicator on back
  • Panerai P.2005 (2007-) - Tourbillon, 6 days, GMT, hand-winding
  • Panerai P.2005/B (2012-) - Power reserve indicator on back
  • Panerai P.2005/S (2010-) - Skeletonized, power reserve indicator on back
  • Panerai P.2005/G (2010-) - Date, month, sunrise and sunset, equation of time, power reserve indicator and star disk on back
  • Panerai P.2006/3 (2009-) - 8 days, rattrapante chronograph, hand-winding, linear power reserve indicator
  • • Panerai P.9000 (2009-) - 3 days automatic
    • Panerai P.9001 (2009-) - 3 days, 12-hour GMT automatic
      • Panerai P.9001/B (2012-)
    • Panerai P.9002 (2009-) - 3 days, 12-hour GMT, power reserve automatic
    • Panerai P.9003 (2014-) - 3 days, 24-hour GMT, circular power reserve on rear
    • Panerai P.9100 (2013-) - 3 days automatic, flyback chronograph, small seconds
      • Panerai P.9100/R (2013-) - Regatta timer
    • Panerai P.3000 (2010-) - 3 days hand-wound
      • Panerai P.3000/1 (2010-)
      • Panerai P.3000/2 (2010-) - Date
      • Panerai P.3000/3 (2010-) - Date, GMT
      • Panerai P.3000/10 (2014-)
  • • Panerai P.4000 (2014-) - 3 days micro-rotorautomatic
    • Panerai P.5000 (2013-) - 8 days hand-wound
    • Panerai P.999 (2009-) - 60 hours, hand-wound
      • Panerai P.999/1 (2010-)

 

[Akapeloso]

Update with new 3285 pls

 

[Notonmyside]

Wow! Thanks, lots of great info.