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Let’s build a Rolex Datejust 16030 Franken!

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Sorry to here about your Covid, get well soon!
I look forward to seeing your progress with this, I haven't played with movements and what not for a few years now but all I can say from my experience is patience, patience & more patience! Don't be too stubborn to walk away from the bench when you really should!
Good Luck!
 
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Got back into it today.



Considering my last outing with what I thought would be a slam dunk - change the date wheel - ended in a movement I’ll either need to rebuild or which is now my “scrap practice and spare parts movement”, today was a little better, fitting the dial to a new movement, and getting the hour hand and then the hand on and aligned.



And then it was time for the seconds hand.

What this picture does not convey is the two or so hours of pissing around trying to get the second hand on manually. I didn’t have any Rodico but I did have blu tack and I borrowed a YouTube trick… and made it happen!



What I’m not going to picture is the next phase of the afternoon during which neither a Raffles case back nor a VSF caseback would fit on a gen mid case, and the attempts to fit the acrylic and the engine turned bezel to the Raffles case which basically come down to, I don’t have a good enough tool or the correct tool for the task.

It suffices to say that this case I’ve got from Raffles - I believe it’s actually an Explorer case - does not want to play ball with the engine turned bezel. The Sternkruez crystal ended up with a nice circular etching in the centre from where my cheap, screw down crystal and bezel tool’s drive screw managed to get free of the plastic setting in which the watch was held, and scratch it up real good.

Next phase here - I’ll see if I can get a better press tool for the bezel and crystal, and now at least I have a practice crystal to go with a practice movement. For the gen 16030 case, I now have a gen case back coming.

Here are the two unfinished cases, mocking me.

 
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Keep the good work! Don’t get discouraged. When you finish, it will be a beautiful watch!
 
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@1016_idiot_savant may I ask that you record for posterity exactly which Raffles mid case/caseback you used and what tool you selected to get your machine turned bezel affixed to said case? Also so I can buy both…
 

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Trickier than it looks isn't it! 😐 Keep up the good work, it's a learning curve for all of us! 👏👏
Oh my fucking god did I have not the faintest sense of perspective from all those nice zoomed in shots people always post. Everything’s sooooooo tiny.
 
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Oh my fucking god did I have not the faintest sense of perspective from all those nice zoomed in shots people always post. Everything’s sooooooo tiny.
You wait til you start playing with click springs! That's when the fun really starts! 🤣
 

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I love this. I am also a big fan of 5-digit Rolex or simply simple-looking Rolex. I am glad I have 16610LN and 16610LV from AR...
With the availability of DD3135, I assume building a Rolex that fits it would not be as difficult.
I'd love to build a few 5-digit models myself with DD3135's, but I am not sure where to start with sourcing parts.
 

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I love this. I am also a big fan of 5-digit Rolex or simply simple-looking Rolex. I am glad I have 16610LN and 16610LV from AR...
With the availability of DD3135, I assume building a Rolex that fits it would not be as difficult.
I'd love to build a few 5-digit models myself with DD3135's, but I am not sure where to start with sourcing parts.
I was in the same boat going “bugger me this is too much”, then went “ahhh bugger it I’ll do it anyway” and got on with it. You only live once and all that.

AliExpress - movements, tools, hand sets. If you need a pointer or two, I can certainly tell you what has worked for me and what hasn’t.
Raffles - case sets and bracelets, they also have crystals.
EBay - gen dials.
 

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@1016_idiot_savant may I ask that you record for posterity exactly which Raffles mid case/caseback you used and what tool you selected to get your machine turned bezel affixed to said case? Also so I can buy both…
I used the "vintage explorer" sapphire crystal case, removed the crystal and fitted an acrylic crystal. I used a cheap crystal press to press on the bezel, which I had heated in the oven and allowed to cool to "hot to touch", using a smear of dishwashing soap as a lubricant. Be careful the crystal press does not deform the cyclops. Alternatively, you could make a simple press using a plastic bottle cap or anything slightly larger than the crystal diameter.
 

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I really love the “made by myself” stories. Keep working !!!
I will be here to read.
 

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This an excellent thread, thanks a lot for posting your experiences. I have learned a lot already and can't believe I missed this one - self builds and mods are a lot of fun, it is good that you started it. Without issues like you described, there is no learning, nice that you are sharing it with us all. Cheers!
 

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Does anyone have a good source for generic case backs that will fit gen cases? I ordered these on Ebay, but they don't fit a 4 or 5 digit Datejust case.

 

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Does anyone have a good source for generic case backs that will fit gen cases? I ordered these on Ebay, but they don't fit a 4 or 5 digit Datejust case.

The Raffles Rolex branded case backs for a vintage 36mm Explorer cases for 2824 don’t fit a gen mid case, as per this thread, and now I’m waiting on some Raffles sets which have sterile case backs and will update when they arrive and I can test - not yet sure when I’ll have my gen or Raffles parts to hand though.
 
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Watch time is usually Saturday morning recovery of executive function time for me - this week it was “catch up the unpacking which didn’t occur post Covid” and the weather Sunday was one of those exceedingly rare warm days in England we get at the absolute peak of summer, and I spent it outside. Also, still waiting on both gen and rep case backs to try out on a gen case.

Normal programming/typical British weather will no doubt resume soon.
 

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Got back into it today.



Considering my last outing with what I thought would be a slam dunk - change the date wheel - ended in a movement I’ll either need to rebuild or which is now my “scrap practice and spare parts movement”, today was a little better, fitting the dial to a new movement, and getting the hour hand and then the hand on and aligned.



And then it was time for the seconds hand.

What this picture does not convey is the two or so hours of pissing around trying to get the second hand on manually. I didn’t have any Rodico but I did have blu tack and I borrowed a YouTube trick… and made it happen!



What I’m not going to picture is the next phase of the afternoon during which neither a Raffles case back nor a VSF caseback would fit on a gen mid case, and the attempts to fit the acrylic and the engine turned bezel to the Raffles case which basically come down to, I don’t have a good enough tool or the correct tool for the task.

It suffices to say that this case I’ve got from Raffles - I believe it’s actually an Explorer case - does not want to play ball with the engine turned bezel. The Sternkruez crystal ended up with a nice circular etching in the centre from where my cheap, screw down crystal and bezel tool’s drive screw managed to get free of the plastic setting in which the watch was held, and scratch it up real good.

Next phase here - I’ll see if I can get a better press tool for the bezel and crystal, and now at least I have a practice crystal to go with a practice movement. For the gen 16030 case, I now have a gen case back coming.

Here are the two unfinished cases, mocking me.

This dial is so stunning. Excited to see how it turns out.
 
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The gen case and OEM dial project is on hold as the case back issue on that one is unresolved.

Tomorrow (or perhaps next week, as I’ve got a function to go to this weekend, invited by another RWI chap) these NH35 spec dials shall lose their feet to be 3135’d, reborn, via this here handy dandy tool recommended by @KJ2020

 
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So close now. You are looking at @markiemark bracelets, Raffles mid case and case back, and gen engine turned bezel on each, with dial by @Archaedin even though I believe he’s just got the account here to prevent a squatting risk and generally does what he does on Reddit.





 
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It’s like tasting the flavour of that blue gun smoke off the barrel after you’ve let a round off on a cold morning.

You aren’t necessarily trying to taste the vibe… but you do anyway.