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umaxim

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Just to be clear, are you referring to ZF or KW in this sentence?

To be completely fair and accurate, the sample provided to ALE specifically for the purpose of material testing was conclusively analyzed as bronze. ;)
 

umaxim

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That's what I thought... thanks, Ale!

So do we expect to get a super-rep or at least superior 1:1 (as it would be difficult to 100% imitate the movement position visible through exhibition clear back)... Trying to decide if waiting for 6 month would result in the new best or to pull the trigger right now ;-).... I'm enjoying my 616, but now have eyes set on 382, and also 364, which is already a super rep, so I might start with it...


We are talking about KW version

Read the analysis thread:

KW PAM382 Bronze material – Official Chemical Analysis (the definitive answer) ******
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...mical-Analysis-(the-definitive-answer)-******


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That's what I thought... thanks, Ale!

So do we expect to get a super-rep or at least superior 1:1 (as it would be difficult to 100% imitate the movement position visible through exhibition clear back)... Trying to decide if waiting for 6 month would result in the new best or to pull the trigger right now ;-).... I'm enjoying my 616, but now have eyes set on 382, and also 364, which is already a super rep, so I might start with it...

PAM 364 Noob has solid caseback is really a Super rep, it has impressive finish and gen-like appearance and IMO it is a sure value

You will not get disappointed with it

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umaxim

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Thanks, Ale... I think I'm gonna go with Noob 364... do u know how thick is it, as I saw 2 different: 17.7 mm and 2.1mm... Please let me know which one is it?


PAM 364 Noob has solid caseback is really a Super rep, it has impressive finish and gen-like appearance and IMO it is a sure value

You will not get disappointed with it

ALE
 

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While I'm seeing TD websites mention either 17/18 or 21mm, there should be only one release of the Noob 364. The 17mm is probably just generalizing on the height of Submersible reps using the P9000 decorated movement. The PAM364 is another case design entirely so I would lean more to the 21 mm measurement. Make the TD measure the watch height. :) But really, whichever TD you pick, the watch will still be the same.
 

umaxim

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Thanks mysterio! Interesting that I don't seem to find any info re. the gen thickness online. I asked my TD to check it... choices choices to make... I love 382, but hope they come out with 100% 1:1 case soon... so that leaves me between 364 and 243... both are amazing, however 47 mm 616 fits perfectly on my wrist, so not sure if I should go for 364 titano or to my original love - 243, which I couldn't get due to Noob selling out and stopping production... now with H factory coming up with a superior version and KW with Seagull 382, I just can't decide between the 3 LOL

While I'm seeing TD websites mention either 17/18 or 21mm, there should be only one release of the Noob 364. The 17mm is probably just generalizing on the height of Submersible reps using the P9000 decorated movement. The PAM364 is another case design entirely so I would lean more to the 21 mm measurement. Make the TD measure the watch height. :) But really, whichever TD you pick, the watch will still be the same.
 

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Thanks mysterio! Interesting that I don't seem to find any info re. the gen thickness online. I asked my TD to check it... choices choices to make... I love 382, but hope they come out with 100% 1:1 case soon... so that leaves me between 364 and 243... both are amazing, however 47 mm 616 fits perfectly on my wrist, so not sure if I should go for 364 titano or to my original love - 243, which I couldn't get due to Noob selling out and stopping production... now with H factory coming up with a superior version and KW with Seagull 382, I just can't decide between the 3 LOL

Both the PAM364 Noob and probably this new PAM243 H Fac (pending evaluation of course) are super rep level. You could go either way you want. The case design of the PAM243 is similar to the PAM382/PAM616 (only they are bigger 47mm profile) and the PAM364 has a radically different case. So whether you want sameness or variety incase design or whether you want to maintain a 47mm sub collection or have a smaller sub, that should dictate which rep you should get.
 

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Hi Ale,

I am looking for a good submersible rep but already have a 389 which is very similar to the 364. Do you have any recommendations for other good reps of Submersibles?

Thanks
 

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Thanks, Ale... I think I'm gonna go with Noob 364... do u know how thick is it, as I saw 2 different: 17.7 mm and 2.1mm... Please let me know which one is it?

Noob PAM 364 has exactly 20,5mm of thickness
I have just measured mine one

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Hi Ale,

I am looking for a good submersible rep but already have a 389 which is very similar to the 364. Do you have any recommendations for other good reps of Submersibles?

Thanks

PAM 389 is not similar to 364 IMO
But if you think so, go to PAM 569 KW with Seagull NON-inverted (awesome)

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Thanks Ale- that's what I thought... is it because of the thick crystal like in gen?

Yes. Of course
Crystal and caseback are very thick, just like gen
But the finish and look are really impressive

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umaxim

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Oh yeah baby! 364 Noob is my next PAM. Ale, in your guide you mention P model of Noob. From what I hear I assume it applies to the newest available Q model as well...

Thanks!

Yes. Of course
Crystal and caseback are very thick, just like gen
But the finish and look are really impressive

ALE
 

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Oh yeah baby! 364 Noob is my next PAM. Ale, in your guide you mention P model of Noob. From what I hear I assume it applies to the newest available Q model as well...

Thanks!


I have not seen any rep PAM 364 Q series, Indeed GEN PAM 364 is Special Series from 2013 (P-series)
Please publish the link and I will study it, but it would be inaccurate IMO
There is no updates announced from Noob