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KW PAM382 Available
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Ah, well at least you don't have to view 300 threads to view the pictureshwell:
Genius !
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This is not a repeated thread, because the first thread was started by the maker as an announcement. This is a thread from a member to get discussion
I really think it has been worth waiting for this release
I know it is very early and we have not yet got the final product, but at this moment I have seen some improvements over ZFac version and, however, I have not seen any worsening
I cannot judge about dial-bezel alignment, because there is no frontal pics to see it.
As far as I can see:
- Kunrling of bezel seems not as polished as gen but way better in finish and shape accuracy
- If we trust KW info, working of rotating bezel is more gen-like and without gaps. But we cannot prove that, just trust KW info
- Lume colour is very uniform in hands, dot markers, stick markers and printed markers on subdial @9...
- We can see very uniform colour and quality of material between case, bezel, bezel markers and CG
- Starting patina is smooth and uniform, Not in an aggressive way or with ugly stains, very gen-like
- Black minute markers on bezel are better placed in relation to pearl and other markers and overall more accurate
- CG chanfered corners are more accurate
- Nice engravings REG T.M. in CG
- Seemingly nice strap with better quality
- Cheaper price with seemingly better quality
Movement it is nicely decorated and with "real" jewels as other KW versions (and ZFac last versions). Balance wheel position of A7750 is @11 whereas the gen P.9000 is @7.
The inner side of the lugs when inserting in the back of the case is not like gen, the same as ZFac version. Rep insertion has not "step" whereas gen insertion presents a little "step". This was already explained by Polonus in other KW thread of announcement but remains without correction in KW version. It is a flaw really no noticeable in practice, but that will be useful to tell the reps in the future from the back view.
The overall finish and care for details seems KW typical and we can assure this is a very beautiful watch and a nice and accurate replica.
I will try to make a review in some time
ALE
I really think it has been worth waiting for this release
I know it is very early and we have not yet got the final product, but at this moment I have seen some improvements over ZFac version and, however, I have not seen any worsening
I cannot judge about dial-bezel alignment, because there is no frontal pics to see it.
As far as I can see:
- Kunrling of bezel seems not as polished as gen but way better in finish and shape accuracy
- If we trust KW info, working of rotating bezel is more gen-like and without gaps. But we cannot prove that, just trust KW info
- Lume colour is very uniform in hands, dot markers, stick markers and printed markers on subdial @9...
- We can see very uniform colour and quality of material between case, bezel, bezel markers and CG
- Starting patina is smooth and uniform, Not in an aggressive way or with ugly stains, very gen-like
- Black minute markers on bezel are better placed in relation to pearl and other markers and overall more accurate
- CG chanfered corners are more accurate
- Nice engravings REG T.M. in CG
- Seemingly nice strap with better quality
- Cheaper price with seemingly better quality
Movement it is nicely decorated and with "real" jewels as other KW versions (and ZFac last versions). Balance wheel position of A7750 is @11 whereas the gen P.9000 is @7.
The inner side of the lugs when inserting in the back of the case is not like gen, the same as ZFac version. Rep insertion has not "step" whereas gen insertion presents a little "step". This was already explained by Polonus in other KW thread of announcement but remains without correction in KW version. It is a flaw really no noticeable in practice, but that will be useful to tell the reps in the future from the back view.
The overall finish and care for details seems KW typical and we can assure this is a very beautiful watch and a nice and accurate replica.
I will try to make a review in some time
ALE
Well Ale is among the best pam analysis guys in the world. The entire pam consulting team is first class.
In the world?
Oh my....
I'm looking to off load this here bridge, you look like a savvy guy with your wits about you, interested?
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Now now, Gaizka, no need for that.
A more accurate statement could have been; of the over 70,000 RWI forum members worldwide, ALE's PAM knowledge, and more importantly his willingness to share his knowledge is second to none.
ALE's rep PAM guides are very well put together and clearly establish his credibility as a world-class Rep Panerist. As one of the premier PAM rep analysts in a niche industry, it would be reasonable to group him into the same category on gen PAM knowledge.
I personally appreciate all those with the knowledge sharing it so that I can continue to grow my appreciation for high quality reps.
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Thanks Ale for a comprehensible preliminary description of what to expect and not from KW´s bronzo; This is quite clear and understandable, professionally stated as always. Thanks for sharing Your opinion
Double huh?
Yeah I'm not looking to date the guy, I was just saying.....aw never mind.
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Thanks friends for your positive or negative comments about my post
This is the purpose of a forum, to get discussion and people can express their thoughts and opinions
But it is preferable to keep the atmosphere in a friendly and polite way
And it is even more important to keep the discussion in the main matter
I'm very grateful becoming the target of this thread but it was started to talk about PAM 382 from KW. Please don't forget it.
Therefore, after leaving people to leave the track sufficiently, I ask you kindly to keep the discussion in the topic from this moment
FROM THIS MOMENT PLEASE !!
THANKS
ALE
This is the purpose of a forum, to get discussion and people can express their thoughts and opinions
But it is preferable to keep the atmosphere in a friendly and polite way
And it is even more important to keep the discussion in the main matter
I'm very grateful becoming the target of this thread but it was started to talk about PAM 382 from KW. Please don't forget it.
Therefore, after leaving people to leave the track sufficiently, I ask you kindly to keep the discussion in the topic from this moment
FROM THIS MOMENT PLEASE !!
THANKS
ALE
Pam analysis i stand by that. If you think anyone compares pams better than the guys in this forum you are wrong.
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The cal 9000 is upside down on the decorated plates and not in the right position. It should be at the 11 o'clock. The rotor looks pretty good.