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KW PAM 382 pictorial [pics heavy]

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KW PAM 382 pictorial




So, finally I got my hands on a KW 382.
The discussion about this release has been quite extensive and all the pros and cons have already been discussed, moreover recently Set2374 posted a nice and complete review of this model here, so instead of writing another review that would add nothing to what has been said already, I decide to shot a pictorial with the intent to capture (to my best) the essence and the real look of this rep as you will receive it from your dealer (I did not clean the watch).

Also thanks NCChef for his very informative and impartial comparison between ZF and KW, you can read it here





The first impression I had when I opened the package was of a tall and heavy watch, noticeably taller than my fiddy and even more than my 382.
That's due to the tall and almost plain bezel and the thick caseback.
On the wrist it has a massive presence, but yet it remains wearable on my 6.75" wrist :)

I admit I was surprised by the case shape, I expeced the mid case to be exactly the same of the 127. I wonder if the differences noticed by NCchef in his comparison are due to the fact that ZF used a fiddy mid case as a sample. Of course this is only my speculation and curiosity, ZF made an honest rep with pros and cons exactly as KW, no flames please ;)



The bronze color with the patina grown has a unique look, it made me think of a Clive Cussler adventure book, ancient relics and oceanic submersions... Pretty fascinating.



The build quality of this piece is good, everything is solid and well built, as you would expect from a KW watch. The caseback is tight, the crown has a good feel, the bezel is not wobbly at all. A couple of things to mention are small details like the CG not being perfectly firm evene after screwing it, or a little nick on the case.
Anyway, to be honest I was maybe expecting something more regarding the finishing of the case, in particular the superb brushing I saw on their 346 is in no way present in this rep, especially on the bezel which has a great impact on the look of the watch.



The pearl is well replicated, its color varies from off white under direct sunlight to a darker greenish color in the shade, due to the strong lume applied. Pearl ring is a bit too thick.



Inscriptions on the dial should have probably been glossier, while hands and markers have a beautiful polished rosegold finsh.




I already wrote too much , on to the (many) pics: ;)




































































And nuclear lume shot:





For the record, I mounted an Orloff vacchetta in giungla color for the pics, a soft brownish strap with a hint of green to match the dial.

Hope you enjoyed the pics and find this post useful :)


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I love your reviews bud, now I know for sure I want this watch! ;) I hope they will release it with ST2555 movement like they did with other KW reps with P.9000 and then it will be all mine!

Btw love this combo with Orloff, you have great taste.

Thanks for sharing!
 

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Thanks my friend,
TBH I don't know why they keep making autos using the A7750, I've seen a 388 with the ST2555 installed and the case was also thinner (more gen-like) than the A7750.
It's thinner, cheaper and more reliable, what else do they want? :)
 

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Thanks KW for this mini-review and fantastic pictorial
You can get a very good idea of the real watch by your magnificent pics
Rep points added and new link to be included in PAM GUIDE
Congrats
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Thanks ALE, my intent was indeed to show the watch as I see it, with its changing colors.
Of course the pics have been shot with diffused light and my usual yellowish lamps, but the result I see on my monitor is very similar to what I see in daily use.
I really hope this helps the other guys to have an idea of what they're buying :)
 

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Thanks ALE, my intent was indeed to show the watch as I see it, with its changing colors.
Of course the pics have been shot with diffused light and my usual yellowish lamps, but the result I see on my monitor is very similar to what I see in daily use.
I really hope this helps the other guys to have an idea of what they're buying :)


I think you GOT IT

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Awesome review and pics!, Thank you for taking the time to put it together.
 

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Well done Kilowattore ! Lovely pics ! The orloff strap is awesome either. Gorgeous combo ! Wear it in good health !
 

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Thanks my friend,
TBH I don't know why they keep making autos using the A7750, I've seen a 388 with the ST2555 installed and the case was also thinner (more gen-like) than the A7750.
It's thinner, cheaper and more reliable, what else do they want? :)

That's exactly what I keep asking myself. Hope to see more 7750's replaced with ST2555. :thumbsup:
 

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Awesome review and pics!, Thank you for taking the time to put it together.

My pleasure mate :)

lovely patina :) thank for posting

That's gen Guangzhou patina :hehehe:

Well done Kilowattore ! Lovely pics ! The orloff strap is awesome either. Gorgeous combo ! Wear it in good health !

Thanks mate, Orloff is indeed a talented strap maker!

That's exactly what I keep asking myself. Hope to see more 7750's replaced with ST2555. :thumbsup:

I am going to try the ST2555 soon, my next rep will be a 312 :)
 

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Nice pics and a great post to tide me over while I wait. Should have mine in 10 days or so. Hong kong post is slow.
 

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Nice job on this man. big fan of your reviews/pictorials! Keep them coming!
 
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First of all, great pics and comparison! I love this stuff. It's the heart of what makes this hobby great.

Im sure I'm not the first to notice this, buy there are a few obvious flaws here that bother me.
1. The bezel pips are different heights
2. The paint fill on the minute marks between 12 and 3 are gloss black, gen is matte black.

Still a great watch, but I wish KW or ZF had paid attention to these details.
 

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First of all, great pics and comparison! I love this stuff. It's the heart of what makes this hobby great.

Im sure I'm not the first to notice this, buy there are a few obvious flaws here that bother me.
1. The bezel pips are different heights
2. The paint fill on the minute marks between 12 and 3 are gloss black, gen is matte black.

Still a great watch, but I wish KW or ZF had paid attention to these details.

You're right, bezel pip at 2 is noticeably higher than the others.
Regarding the bezel markers not only they ar glossy, they also are too rounded :)

I am still curious about the case and CG shape, do you think it's more accurate un kw or zf?
 

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Kilo, awesome write up and I only wish I could take pictures that are half as good as yours. Are you using a DSLR? Really amazing work. You're watch looks great my friend. I have a low pip at 7. This is a new rep made with materials that the makers aren't used to working with yet. You're just not going to get the same quality fit and finish as KW achieved on its 312, 346, 351, 359, 388 etc--at least in these early examples. As far as the brushing on the bezel goes, it could be a little more pronounced. But truth be told, the bezel on the 507 I handled did not have a deep/noticeable brushed finish on the bezel. It was more of a satin/brushed finish, that was emphasized by the polished knurling and, more importantly, the the polished chambered edge between the knurling and the top of the bezel that sets off the brushed finish. Moreover, the brushing is only really noticeable after the watch comes out of a Ketchup bath and has no patina. Once it forms patina, it's harder to make out these subtle details anyway. As I said in my review, it's not a perfect watch... hell, it's not even the best KW pam. It is, however, a stunner and gives me tons of pleasure to wear. It definitely has a ton of wrist presence--more so than anything else in my collection and it's the first watch I have gotten multiple compliments on ever.
 

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Thanks set, both for the appreciation and for your reviews, I decided to go for a 312 after seeing your thread about it :)

I agree with you the polished edge of the bezel makes a huge difference and emphasises the brushing above.
Moreover I think it is almost impossible to judge the closeness to gen of this watch in terms of finish, as you say, few days of patina are enough to change the look of the watch.
That said, on a cleaned watch, I prefer the ZF brushing from the pics I've seen. It is probably more pronounced than in gen, but given the lack of contrast with the edge polishing, the overall look is slightly better imho.

Regarding the bezel pips the difference in height is dramatically enhanced in pics, in real life it's almost unnoticeable.
In the end these are just very small details that subtract almost nothing from the beauty of this rep.
I'm obviously more than happy with my rep :D
 

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Thanks set, both for the appreciation and for your reviews, I decided to go for a 312 after seeing your thread about it :)

I agree with you the polished edge of the bezel makes a huge difference and emphasises the brushing above.
Moreover I think it is almost impossible to judge the closeness to gen of this watch in terms of finish, as you say, few days of patina are enough to change the look of the watch.
That said, on a cleaned watch, I prefer the ZF brushing from the pics I've seen. It is probably more pronounced than in gen, but given the lack of contrast with the edge polishing, the overall look is slightly better imho.

Regarding the bezel pips the difference in height is dramatically enhanced in pics, in real life it's almost unnoticeable.
In the end these are just very small details that subtract almost nothing from the beauty of this rep.
I'm obviously more than happy with my rep :D


I agree with you in many of above subjects

After seeing a lot of pics and my KW PAM 382, I can see that upper surface and upper external edge of the bezel is more accurate in ZFac, although the upper external edge is not polished like gen and KW. But knurling horizontal Section, knurling vertical shape and knurling polishing are way better in KW.
As you say, patina hides very soon the surface and polishing whereas the shapes of the knurling always remain, it is for what I prefer KW bezel

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