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kuared_watch for daytona build

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Kuared is very good and 100% trustworthy. I have spent a lot of money with him. No matter what i ask for, he's got pics and video the same day. And ships fedex.
 

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For me he goes good, obviously the quality is not the best and sometime you can get scratched dials (thats happened to me) case that need to be reworked or even serial number engraving but right aligned… but for better quality you have to spend double the price so… it’s a good compromise. You can find a thread by me where I show parts I bought from him with my “brand new” vj72 and now I’m waiting to build it up ;)
 

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the issue is that all the aftermarket vietnam dials have issues… and when you spent 3000/5000€ for a watch that can be spotted as fake in 1 second is always a mess 😅
If you study a specific dial deeply you will note that all are wrongs.. you need to put together 3 dials to make one… 😂
 

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the issue is that all the aftermarket vietnam dials have issues… and when you spent 3000/5000€ for a watch that can be spotted as fake in 1 second is always a mess 😅
If you study a specific dial deeply you will note that all are wrongs.. you need to put together 3 dials to make one… 😂
Can you please call out what is wrong with the dial OP posted? It even has serifs on the subdial indexes but I'm not sure about the "Daytona" font... Looks a bit too bold but I'm no expert on vintage Daytonas.
 

Dohdoh

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Would not worry about that... It's still illegal what he does and just a protection imo
It is very confusing , and it always deletes the photos it sends you ...........
 

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Can you please call out what is wrong with the dial OP posted? It even has serifs on the subdial indexes but I'm not sure about the "Daytona" font... Looks a bit too bold but I'm no expert on vintage Daytonas.
Thickness of printings
Tswiss wrong
Writings not correctly aligned

It is a mix of different type of dials
 
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Usually they mix the big red and the big eyes dials proportions … in addition they mix the font and thickness printing of the big red and small red dials… 😅
These dials are a mix of Big red, Big Eye and Small red dials… this without considering the font of the writings.
 
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I would like to have no issues on a part that cost 700/800€ but now I understood why it’s so and I used this “problem” as good as I can, making it part of the aging! ;)
Obviously it will never be like a gen cause it’s not gen…
When I spend 5k on a build I consider that 2k OSS for case/dial/bracelet/hands of great quality and I’m happy to have it, 2,5k is for the movement that is the very heart of the build and the rest of the handwork…
So I have a great watch, even if aftermarket, with a wonderful movement
 
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I would like to have no issues on a part that cost 700/800€ but now I understood why it’s so and I used this “problem” as good as I can, making it part of the aging! ;)
Obviously it will never be like a gen cause it’s not gen…
When I spend 5k on a build I consider that 2k OSS for case/dial/bracelet/hands of great quality and I’m happy to have it, 2,5k is for the movement that is the very heart of the build and the rest of the handwork…
So I have a great watch, even if aftermarket, with a wonderful movement
I agree with you but my issue is that after many years in collecting vintage watches I started to study each reference.. dials.. engravings.. cases and sometimes my eye continue to see the small details that are wrong.
Perfect replica dials exist.. but cost a lot.. and aren’t commercial.
 
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I agree with you but my issue is that after many years in collecting vintage watches I started to study each reference.. dials.. engravings.. cases and sometimes my eye continue to see the small details that are wrong.
Perfect replica dials exist.. but cost a lot.. and aren’t commercial.
I don’t mind to have “perfect” replica
For me a replica is a replica… I can pay a lot of money to have a nice movement, a nice handworked timepiece, but if I had to spend 5k for a “perfect” replica dial I prefer to buy a cheaper gen
 

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I don’t mind to have “perfect” replica
For me a replica is a replica… I can pay a lot of money to have a nice movement, a nice handworked timepiece, but if I had to spend 5k for a “perfect” replica dial I prefer to buy a cheaper gen
I tend to agree with this sentiment but I totally understand why others feel otherwise, of course and... there isn't much Daytona available for anywhere near that money so you are a bit 'stuck'... Albeit I'd be looking at Vintage Tudor Chronos for that budget.
 
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I tend to agree with this sentiment but I totally understand why others feel otherwise, of course and... there isn't much Daytona available for anywhere near that money so you are a bit 'stuck'... Albeit I'd be looking at Vintage Tudor Chronos for that budget.
I did only an analysis of the dial posted explaining my concerns about Kuared dials, for sure everyone spend his money how he wants and for sure for a good v72 daytona isn’t cheap.
I’m not saying that Kuared dials aren’t good… I’m saying that in my opinion they are perfect for a low cost build but when you start to invest more money probably a correct dial (in my opinion) is preferred..
For this reason my first step is to find the dial…and after start the build.

Otherwise with 5000/6000/7000€ you can buy a beautiful gen 145.022 69 Speedmaster (only head).
 
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He's reliable indeed and very responsive, unlike some others...
With a V72 but not converted right? He also offers converted ones and they're beautiful. He even offers solid gold Daytonas but then it starts to be very expensive.
What does having a v72 converted mean?
 

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What does having a v72 converted mean?
V72 can be found with engravings or without
This is anonymous, has a clear bridge, not engraved



And this is a v72 from a Lebois, so it has engraved the name on the bridge



A v72 converted (I think) is a v72 where bridge and plate were changed with Rolex’s one

For example, this is mine VJ725 (very rare to be found, it has flyback chrono) and it has 21600 beat like the Rolex 727.
I “converted” it with Rolex and Breguet parts to be more possible like the gen Rolex 727

 
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V72 can be found with engravings or without
This is anonymous, has a clear bridge, not engraved



And this is a v72 from a Lebois, so it has engraved the name on the bridge



A v72 converted (I think) is a v72 where bridge and plate were changed with Rolex’s one

For example, this is mine VJ725 (very rare to be found, it has flyback chrono) and it has 21600 beat like the Rolex 727.
I “converted” it with Rolex and Breguet parts to be more possible like the gen Rolex 727

Very nice. Thank you for taking the time to explain!
 
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