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It depends on batch a but ATM in my opinion the Maxicase of 116610 is great
 
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Well I dont franken, so i dont spend my thoughts on such things...I buy the watch i like, and dont even care if lugs on 126610 are too fat on my clean;)
 
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To me, JVS and Clean 114060 is the same case only it has a VSF S19 serial..
JVS 114060 below.. case profile without the taper, wrong crown guards.. exact same as Clean?
Thanks for the input. Maybe I'm just retarded, but I literally don't see the issue with the JVS one, It's different variants depending on what model of GEN they had as a base? Some gens from what I've seen has different styles of "slanted" if that's whats your thinking about.
Could you please explain a bit why it's "wrong crown guard"? Respectfully speaking.

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, It's different variants depending on what model of GEN they had as a base? Some gens from what I've seen has different styles of "slanted" if that's whats your thinking about.

There was only 1 style of gen 114060 crown guards (116610 had early rounded/late angular edged) and they were angular like the later 116610. (The 114060 came around 2013, some years after the early style 116610 in 2010).

In any case, the sides of the case should be tapered, which these are not, obvious by the straight edges reflected on the side shot of the crown guards.

I don't have time to hunt down and edit pictures to further explain, you can do your own research and call BS if you can be bothered to invest the time and find anything contradictory :search:.

I could be all wrong of course. :idontno: This is just one opinion of many.
 
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Thanks for the input. Maybe I'm just retarded, but I literally don't see the issue with the JVS one, It's different variants depending on what model of GEN they had as a base? Some gens from what I've seen has different styles of "slanted" if that'.............
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This is the angularity we are referring to. There's also the "discussion" with the crown guard width in relation to the crown when viewing the watch face on, but this is the angle in question. Albeit very slight, but when frankening something to consider (which is giving me a headache) :( The JVS is a per the ZF in the pic in terms of angle, so it appears.

Also please ignore my SHOCKING bezel scalloping, this is also getting replaced! :rofl:
 
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I've been looking at a few different QC pics from Clean and JVS, they all seem like they're hit or miss, No consistency? Or am I just going crazy?

Interesting. Clean did put out a few Subs with updated cg's and with correct tapered angles as above but have now revereted back to the incorrect case. This JVS 114060 looks same as Clean to me, said that before.. I just wonder if JVS is Clean, is this another ZZF trick?
 
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I've been looking at a few different QC pics from Clean and JVS, they all seem like they're hit or miss, No consistency? Or am I just going crazy?

I completely agree. but really guys, we pay attention to this and to that, we make a bundle of all the grass ... but in the end, it is all random for the same factories
 
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I've been looking at a few different QC pics from Clean and JVS, they all seem like they're hit or miss, No consistency? Or am I just going crazy?

No this is correct. It's even been happening with the 12 CGs from Clean. Which I find strange as it can only mean 2 case suppliers? Because once you've change the program to the angled CGs why would you revert back? Maybe someone can shed some light
 

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No this is correct. It's even been happening with the 12 CGs from Clean. Which I find strange as it can only mean 2 case suppliers? Because once you've change the program to the angled CGs why would you revert back? Maybe someone can shed some light

I have two Clean 114060, where the latest (august batch )has correct CG's, it also seems slightly improved in other areas as the bezel movement and brush finish.

For all factories, rep product QC consistency does have a significant degree of variation from batch to batch.

It appears that former RL'ed watches are sometimes being reworked in larger batches, resold through other AD's, could recent bought watches with "wrong" CG's actually be older, reworked stock?
 
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I have two Clean 114060, where the latest (august batch )has correct CG's, it also seems slightly improved in other areas as the bezel movement an....................resold through other AD's, could recent bought watches with "wrong" CG's actually be older, reworked stock?

I believe that they would be resold or passed on however unsure about the reworking. Not sure if that would be cost efficient for the factories but never say never.

Where have you purchased from recently to receive two CF with correct crown guards? If you could upload some photos of them?

After witnessing many CF and JVS with non-angled CG QCs, and no luck with finding a VSF base, I've got together the equipment to machine my own angled CGs, we will see
 
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My post was unclear, I have two, where the latest have correct CG. [uimage/jOywp1]
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The one one the left has correct CG's - Sorry for the picture quality.

Perhaps you got lucky? Especially after viewing the Clean thread (thanks for the link), it is still so hit and miss. The equipment will arrive this week and I will machine the ZF case and update accordingly. If it goes wrong it's only a ZF :p
 

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[video]https://w.co/r/Rep

Video of the 114060 JVS, look at that slanted CG, is it good?

Juget them.

The crown guards are straight on the model in this video. It says so in the comment from the OP, as expected for JVS so far. I'm guessing these are still V1
 
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