Just bought a watch from Blackmerchantwatch.com

[Karbon74]

Great. I already ordered two more and paid for them through PayPal. I suppose I can cancel them cuz I doubt they've shipped yet.

Check out the sellers here

Trusted Rep Dealers

The websites & email addresses listed here are the only one to be used. Any other website found online or in a post other than from the dealer itself are not recommended Be careful, copycat websites are one of the most common scam out there and their addresses are very similar.

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Also, as a starter, i would suggest those sellers
Andiot, ctime, jtime, trusty

Welcome again and enjoy your new hobby.

 

[Richard$]

Yeah stay away from any sites other then the ones located here.

Here is a VSF Sub 124060 that sells for $500 and you can see the difference from your to a top factory Sub

From what I can tell though most of these trusted dealers don't have websites. And they ask you to pay through friends and family on PayPal which I feel is unsafe because you have no recourse if there's a problem. Whereas, the place that I purchased this watch from even though it isn't a trusted dealer accepts PayPal and I'm able to file a claim if there's a problem. Again I'm not trying to argue because I understand the differences between the the clean factory and VS watches, but they're also a lot more money , although that's not the issue . Going forward, I'd like to deal with a trusted vendor that accepts PayPal through a website if there is such a thing. Perhaps you can point me in that direction.

 

[Karbon74]

From what I can tell though most of these trusted dealers don't have websites. And they ask you to pay through friends and family on PayPal which I feel is unsafe because you have no recourse if there's a problem. Whereas, the place that I purchased this watch from even though it isn't a trusted dealer accepts PayPal and I'm able to file a claim if there's a problem. Again I'm not trying to argue because I understand the differences between the the clean factory and VS watches, but they're also a lot more money , although that's not the issue . Going forward, I'd like to deal with a trusted vendor that accepts PayPal through a website if there is such a thing. Perhaps you can point me in that direction.

If it’s helpful to you, the reason why the RWI listed sellers are called « Trusted Dealers » is that RWI Admins act as recourse in case of issues with the TD

Also many of them have been here for years, some decades, with the track record of making things right

 

[j-unit]

Most dealers (btw all the dealers @Karbon74 listed above) have websites and some accept PayPal. As there is no seller specific risk as long as you proceed with a TD, you can use more cost efficient payment method like Wise.

 

[asusundevils1971]

A lot of the TD's here have websites and very few will accept PayPal. If you have any problems with a TD you will get the RWI staff helping you out if something goes wrong with a transaction (what Pika said above).

If your watch gets seized by customs most if not all the TD's here will send you a new watch (check their site and ask them).

 

[kavorca1]

Listen op, no one on rwi is interested in buying from a non TD. If you are happy with that seller, then go with god, but we are not interested in non TD purchases. Said my piece

 

[Karbon74]

Listen op, no one on rwi is interested in buying from a non TD. If you are happy with that seller, then go with god, but we are not interested in non TD purchases. Said my piece

actually, I like seeing those reviews
it's always good to see what's out there

 

[Richard$]

Listen op, no one on rwi is interested in buying from a non TD. If you are happy with that seller, then go with god, but we are not interested in non TD purchases. Said my piece

In respect that.

 

[Richard$]

If it’s helpful to you, the reason why the RWI listed sellers are called « Trusted Dealers » is that RWI Admins act as recourse in case of issues with the TD

Also many of them have been here for years, some decades, with the track record of making things right

Thank you.

 

[Richard$]

I struggled a little bit but I got the rear cover off and sure enough it's a simple movement with no markings whatsoever on it It's probably junk like you guys said. It does seem to keep time for now.

 

[Feefo]

Freshly registered, one and only post talking about a seller ... Yup, not suspicious at all.

Everyone has to start somewhere, member with just 3 days more seniority than OP.

@Richard$
Hi and welcome to RWI! Glad you found your way here.

You learned a little lesson, but the important thing is you can enjoy your watch.

Please take some time to read the sticky threads in the new members area (all subsections), learn the basic forum rules and get some very good advice in the process. A number of questions has already been answered there, this is just an example:

Quick links to some of the more prevalent rules of the forum.

The First Constitution of RWI https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...itution-of-rwi QC Rules https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...tle-on-qc-pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...of-qc-pictures Glamour pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...r-pics-and-rwi Multiple Accounts...

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As a new subscriber, you've already been directed to this thread, please read carefully and look through the linked additional threads:

You are welcome

If you've just joined and are reading this, welcome to RWI. If you are having issues with posting and sending PMs please log out and in again. If still no joy, log out, clear cache and RWI cookies and log in again, this will fix the issue. If you stop here, or read just the next few lines...

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Another good thread to read to understand where RWI comes from and some fundamentals is this:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/the-first-constitution-of-rwi.51989/

Most of the information you need to know to start is there. If you're preparing to buy, read the stickies before ordering. When you're finished, you can continue learning by reading the stickies in all remaining sections. If it's stickied, it's important information.

If you intend to sell, read the sales rules and all stickies in the sales section with particular care and make sure you understand each single rule. Sales rules infraction is taken very seriously here. As a new member you are not eligible to sell. Using the sales section is a privilege, eligibility must be earned, make sure you know and understand how.

For anything else, feel free to reach out to @eBoy or me, we're happy to assist, advise, direct, explain. Don't hesitate.

Don't be afraid to post noob questions in the new members area. In doubt, use the flame free zone. If you feel uncomfortable anywhere in the new members area, please reach out to @eBoy or me. Mutual respect is of utmost importance to us. On the other hand, we're grown-ups and are supposed to be able to deal with a bit of irony, don't take it personally, ever, a bit of irony never harmed anyone. If you laugh at jokes, you'll make friends faster.

This forum is a treasure trove of information and benefits from the engagement of all members who take their time to share their knowledge, help each other out and have some fun. We hope that you'll benefit and enjoy this platform as well as contribute positively to it.

If at any point you feel to contribute also on another level, feel free to pm the boss (trailboss99) to become a supporter and get some little perks with the status (editing rights, for example).

Enjoy the forum.

 

[fnfalguy]

Listen op, no one on rwi is interested in buying from a non TD. If you are happy with that seller, then go with god, but we are not interested in non TD purchases. Said my piece

I don’t agree with that sentiment, I’ve purchased quality watches from TDs here as well as from non-TDs. There are other dealers out there who are trustworthy, even if they aren’t listed as TDs here. The huge advantage of using the RWI list is that the part of determining if something is a scam has already been researched by the good folks here who do the vetting.

 

[Feefo]

I don’t agree with that sentiment, I’ve purchased quality watches from TDs here as well as from non-TDs. There are other dealers out there who are trustworthy, even if they aren’t listed as TDs here. The huge advantage of using the RWI list is that the part of determining if something is a scam has already been researched by the good folks here who do the vetting.

And this is why we have a non-TD buyer's review section. Now we know thi dealer is not to be trusted.

 

[pompompurin]

Hi and welcome to this forum!

The watch you bought appears to be an inaccurate hybrid of the 116613 LB and 126613 LB.

As an upgrade to your current watch, I recommend either one of these high quality reps instead:

116613 LB from clean factory:

JTIME

JTIME WATCH

jtime.io

126613 LB from clean factory:

JTIME

JTIME WATCH

jtime.io

You can message one of our trusted dealers (TD) (e.g., I recommend jtime = https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/welcome-to-jtime-watch-store.7769014/) to source either one of the above watches. If you want to take these watches to the next level, you can pay a bit more and ask the TD to upgrade the stock crystal on these clean factory watches to a "deep crystal"

 

[Rx4Time]

We've all (at least most of us) have been there starting off. At least yours wasn't an expensive lesson.

 

[Richard$]

We've all (at least most of us) have been there starting off. At least yours wasn't an expensive lesson.

Yeah I'm starting to think that I dodged the bullet.

What I have noticed though is that some of these trusted sites that I've been on say that they're watches aren't waterproof even though the originals are. For instance the submariner it says that they don't guarantee the watch if it is used for swimming or if it gets wet. How can that be? If they're perfect replicas then they should also be waterproof, no?

 

[Richard$]

Hi and welcome to this forum!

The watch you bought appears to be an inaccurate hybrid of the 116613 LB and 126613 LB.

As an upgrade to your current watch, I recommend either one of these high quality reps instead:

116613 LB from clean factory:

JTIME

JTIME WATCH

jtime.io

126613 LB from clean factory:

JTIME

JTIME WATCH

jtime.io

You can message one of our trusted dealers (TD) (e.g., I recommend jtime = https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/welcome-to-jtime-watch-store.7769014/) to source either one of the above watches. If you want to take these watches to the next level, you can pay a bit more and ask the TD to upgrade the stock crystal on these clean factory watches to a "deep crystal"

Thank you so much I'm going to go forward and do what you said. How are you able to tell that it's a hybrid of the 40 mm and 41 mm watch? What is it that you see that gives that away? Sorry for all the questions but I'm pretty hooked now and I'll probably be buying a dozen watches by the time the month is over.

 

[pompompurin]

How are you able to tell that it's a hybrid of the 40 mm and 41 mm watch? What is it that you see that gives that away?

No problem. The case shape resembles a 116613, while the dial has that rolex crown (coronet) at the 6 o'clock position which appears on the latest models like 126613 (the 126613 is the newer version of the 116613). This is just one of the many, many, many giveaways (e.g., cyclops magnification is distorted, case shape/ crownguard (CG) is wrong, bad hands, wrong date window location, bad dial, etc.).

 

[BIONONE]

Yeah I'm starting to think that I dodged the bullet.

What I have noticed though is that some of these trusted sites that I've been on say that they're watches aren't waterproof even though the originals are. For instance the submariner it says that they don't guarantee the watch if it is used for swimming or if it gets wet. How can that be? If they're perfect replicas then they should also be waterproof, no?

Spend some time reading in the new members subforum - you‘ll love it. All your questions and doubts will be met with answers and explanations. You‘re of course not the first individual asking these things.

Trust the experienced old folks on here.

Welcome to the „real“ rep world - your entry ticket wasn‘t too expensive i must admit. Congrats on that. For many of thd posting members on here it took a lot more and lost goods to find this place.

Have a good one

 

[p0pperini]

RWI has a bit of a gym-bro culture…

Ugh. This is definitely not a club I want to be a member of...

What I have noticed though is that some of these trusted sites that I've been on say that they're watches aren't waterproof even though the originals are. For instance the submariner it says that they don't guarantee the watch if it is used for swimming or if it gets wet. How can that be? If they're perfect replicas then they should also be waterproof, no?

Who said anything about "perfect" replicas?

No replica is perfect. You need to remain aware that even if you switch up to buying the best replicas on the market, they're still Chinese made counterfeit goods, assembled in way less-than clean room conditions by semi-skilled children. If your clone was perfect, it would cost a bit closer to the gen than one twentieth.

A lot of Trusted Dealers do sell "waterproof" reps that they state are good for swimming in. But I'd never trust any clone watch to be waterproof out of the box. It's a simple job to get it tested and the gaskets to be properly greased if required. You've paid enough for it to be worth that. Or, simply don't wear it in the sea/shower/pool.