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Josh and Andrew - A Staff decision

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LegendofSpeed

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Due to evidence brought forth to the staff of RWI, both Josh and Andrew's sections on RWI have been closed. The discussions and polling on these matters may be seen in the following threads.

http://replica-watch.info/phpBB3/viewto ... =1&t=41999

http://replica-watch.info/phpBB3/viewto ... &sk=t&sd=a

http://replica-watch.info/phpBB3/viewto ... =1&t=42036

http://replica-watch.info/phpBB3/viewto ... white+lies

Andrew has not seen fit to respond or provide any answers on the subject other than to deflect the issue and claim that dealers are conspiring against him. Josh and Andrew have always been viewed as one and the same due to their close connection and business partnership. Thus, we have made the decision to sanction both of them at this time.

We have not made this decision easily as these two dealers have been mainstays of RWI. This decision was made due to a concentrated effort by these two dealers to obstruct other valued dealers and, ultimately, you the member from obtaining replicas at a fair price. They have sought to control the market and intimidate other dealers into raising prices.

Others (whether they be members here or on the other forums) will laugh and think that we are silly... They will say that we are shouting at the rain and that we can't change anything... Maybe they are right but our purpose in this world is to bring you, the member, the safest and best replica hobby experience we can...

You may not agree with our decision, but please respect that we have made this decision with your best interests at heart.

We hope that the closing of their sections is not permanent and that they will respond to us and the topics at hand can be mediated. Until then, their sections will remain closed with this message there.
 

Klink

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"we have made this decision with your best interests at heart."


no doubt that the staff has forum members best interest at heart.

some may disagree.. poll has speaking!

Klink

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onzenuub

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Strange to see that other people allways think they know what is best for me...................
 

onzenuub

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Strange to see that other people allways think they know what is best for me...................
 

onzenuub

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Klink I like you, only I know what is best for me, I can make my own decisions, I don't wnat to start a war about this, I will decide where I buy my reps. That is what we are talking about over here, fake watches, costs between 30 and 70 $ to produce. Like you say, life is good, also life is to short, enjoy what you are doing and make your own decisions. And yes, life is good.
 

LegendofSpeed

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You are free to buy from whomever you so choose... but we choose not to endorse this two dealers at this time....
 

Klink

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board admin has reason(s)
 

mickeypro

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as a member and frequent poster and visitor I think this one was decided from the beginning. Also I think it is humerous the title was "Andrew respond" and not "Andrew and Josh respond" shouldnt we have our "trial" for Josh as well? Also lets rename the new title "Dictator" since the vote cast by the members in the poll was not chosen by our admins.


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42036


Life is good
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for me anyway
 

onzenuub

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I know, only I just wnat to buy good reps. On the forums I will look for sellers who sell good reps. If I find one, I will search for his reputation, next it will be my decision to buy from him. That is one of the reasons why we are on the forums. We, the members, just want to see the links to the guys who sell nice reps and we will decide for ourselves or we will buy or not. Only it is there forum and they decide, so...
 

brtelec

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Thanks guys for moving on this. I know this decision came with a lot of thought. I appreciate it.
 

hk45ca

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onzenuub said:
I know, only I just wnat to buy good reps. On the forums I will look for sellers who sell good reps. If I find one, I will search for his reputation, next it will be my decision to buy from him. That is one of the reasons why we are on the forums. We, the members, just want to see the links to the guys who sell nice reps and we will decide for ourselves or we will buy or not. Only it is there forum and they decide, so...

your opinion has been noted and for the second time you are free to buy from whomever you wish.
 

ThreadLocker

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@LOS: I back your decision. You cannot continue to endorse someone who you believe is acting inappropriately. Therefore, you no longer endorse them. It makes sense. Members here are still free to visit their sites and purchase their products. However, RWI will not recommend the use of these guys. I, for one, will support the other dealers here. I have never had a problem with Andrew, and I have made more than a dozen purchases from him. However, it is a matter of principal, and not commerce.
 

LegendofSpeed

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mickeypro said:
Also lets rename the new title "Dictator" since the vote cast by the members in the poll was not chosen by our admins.

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for me anyway

Actually... this is a work in progress.... it is a huge amount of work to remove/move that many threads from those two sections... ultimately, the two sections will be seen without any threads with a notice...
 

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Thank you admin.

I respect/support your final decision and appreciate the staff in dealing with such a sensitive issue in a timely manner.
 

LegendofSpeed

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For any who don't think that Josh and Andrew have more control than what they say they do, let me quote a blast from the past... the b9a thread...

Jos nana said:
How many times must I tell you .. I am the maker of this watch . i control who to sell to .... you continue to mislead the members here that soon yourr favourite dealer brand9 will get this watch and that those are supplier pics.. .. Please .. if I dun sell to him.. where can he get the watches ?

trustywatchguy said:
Last but not least, I have been in this trade for about 4-5 years. There arent many big timers in USA who can stock every single model you see on the site. I ahve USD50,000 to USD80,000 worth of goods in China and Malaysia and I dont go around bragging on that. I have 2 trained fellows to take care of operations and my scope of work is to get Makers and suppliers to get me exclusives for items
 

hk45ca

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@los, people have a short memory don't they?

josh and trusty are already running a damage control raffle at one of the other boards.
 

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LegendOfSpeed said:
For any who don't think that Josh and Andrew have more control than what they say they do, let me quote a blast from the past... the b9a thread...

Jos nana said:
How many times must I tell you .. I am the maker of this watch . i control who to sell to .... you continue to mislead the members here that soon yourr favourite dealer brand9 will get this watch and that those are supplier pics.. .. Please .. if I dun sell to him.. where can he get the watches ?

trustywatchguy said:
Last but not least, I have been in this trade for about 4-5 years. There arent many big timers in USA who can stock every single model you see on the site. I ahve USD50,000 to USD80,000 worth of goods in China and Malaysia and I dont go around bragging on that. I have 2 trained fellows to take care of operations and my scope of work is to get Makers and suppliers to get me exclusives for items you guys will love.


QED...quod erat demonstrandum
 

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The quotes speak volumes and sum up pages of rhetoric. Those who don't like the decision I fell sorry for ya. No one is stopping anyone from shopping there. they kust don't get the RWI thumbs up for muscling another dealer here.

Im sure there are the slilent majority who rad and don't post that will shop there. It's a click away. If you want to reccomend them to a member do so in private PM. Or I dunno. Some of us here reccomend other dealers not on the list (Ufanta) and there is no foul there. It wontmake a dent in his biz but it does send a message. We are not for sale and we will not allow anyone to fuck with us.

Im sure we all have his site bookmarked and his pictures and descriptions are helpful in seasoned rep buyers into making informed purchase decisions. Thats what i do...window shop at the cartel, and get it from someone else for cheaper, and without insult.

I commend LOS and the Admin for having the courage to do the right thing.
 
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