Jaquet Droz Grande Seconde - needs to be 28800bph

[reppy]

I want to buy some more Jaquet Droz reps like these Jaquet Droz Grande Seconde

I feel like the seconds hand sweep is too much of a tell, as the rep has 21600bph and the gen is 28800bph
Will we be able to ever get the right frequency movement?

Also, the rotors aren't correct. I'd be happy to buy corrected versions of these with the right bph and correct rotors and possibly decorated movement.

What do the rest of you think?

https://puretime03.com/grande-seconde-enamel-ss-white-dial-on-black-leather-strap-a23j.html
Manufacturer's pics:

https://puretime03.com/grande-secon...l-style-2-on-black-leather-strap-a23j-v2.html
Manufacturer's pics:

 

[UDTMIKE]

Very unusual watch. Never seen one like it. Would be a conversation piece.

 

[yojj]

the gen dial is enamel, case is white gold, that alone is big enough of a tell.

 

[reppy]

the gen dial is enamel, case is white gold, that alone is big enough of a tell.

gen case on the off-centered is stainless. gen case on the white faced one is white gold.

 

[yojj]

gen case on the off-centered is stainless. gen case on the white faced one is white gold.

didn't know they made SS, but either way enamel is something can't be repped

I think it's a signature of JD, not sure if they got anything without it

 

[reppy]

didn't know they made SS, but either way enamel is something can't be repped

I think it's a signature of JD, not sure if they got anything without it

Whatever the case, there are super accurate versions of AP's, Rolex Day Dates, Richard Mille, Carbon fiber, Carbon forged, gold plated, etc.
No reason there can't be a more accurate version of these. 28800bph, enamel, etc.

 

[cleebeauregard]

reppy, it looks like your pretty new to this hobby, or at least to this forum-- one thing to keep in mind is that the folks making these reps are running a business. An illegal business mind you, but a business none the less, and their ultimate goal is no different than any other business-- to make a profit.

That said, while the Jaquet Droz Grande Seconde is certainly a beautiful watch, it's not one that likely has "mass market appeal" like a Sub or a Seamaster, so the number of units likely to be sold is nowhere near something more mainstream, so the motivation for creating a more accurate version (which could cost a significant amount to develop) simply isn't there. Stated more simply, the factories don't want to spend excess time or money on models that aren't likely to sell well.

 

[yojj]

Whatever the case, there are super accurate versions of AP's, Rolex Day Dates, Richard Mille, Carbon fiber, Carbon forged, gold plated, etc.
No reason there can't be a more accurate version of these. 28800bph, enamel, etc.

Not to say enamel is impossible to make or anything, rep industry has certainly proven its ability in watch making.

However, do keep in mind that it would be an extremely difficult process to duplicate, and very limited use in it, so I'm 90% sure to tell you that enamel won't be seen on rep in recent years.

Thus no need to improve to the 28800 when you already have a huge tell anyway

 

[reppy]

While the Jaquet Droz Grande Seconde is certainly a beautiful watch, it's not one that likely has "mass market appeal" like a Sub or a Seamaster, so the number of units likely to be sold is nowhere near something more mainstream

You're right. However, these are relatively simple watches that have already been repped, just not at named-factory rep quality.
It won't take that much to use a higher beat movement and machine a rotor to match the gen.

 

[cleebeauregard]

I'd LOVE to see some enamel dials-- maybe a Patek 5117 super-rep someday

 

[Juraj_G]

Not to say enamel is impossible to make or anything, rep industry has certainly proven its ability in watch making.

However, do keep in mind that it would be an extremely difficult process to duplicate, and very limited use in it, so I'm 90% sure to tell you that enamel won't be seen on rep in recent years.

Thus no need to improve to the 28800 when you already have a huge tell anyway

Tbh., you are right with saying, that the rep industry is about making money. But then, i dont understand, why they even repped this one and not for instance a correct no date 5 digit sub. For me, this is simply not understandable. We see Jacques Droz watches, Parmigiani watches etc., all of them are quite off, so why they simply do not put the efforts into repping a no date sub instead? Demand is definitely here. I know, its not a question diretcly to you, rather more a thought...


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