Thank you, bu there is still no happyend
What do you think about that mark?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/ceramiciii-111028
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Thank you, bu there is still no happyend
What do you think about that mark?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/ceramiciii-111028
No doubt it's a piece of metal from the screwdriver.It's ceramic mate, you should have thought about it when you were deciding which watch to buy.
Its can't be piece of metal from scredriver, mate. I'm not beat watches by screwdriver, its sratch on the sandblasted ceramic coating out side. Bad quality case coating from factory.
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I'm confused here: why does everyone keep insisting its ceramic and can't be scratched? How do we know the factory isn't lying about the material, and it's a stainless case with a coating?
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Well I find it hard to believe but let's wait for the expert opinion...It woulddefinitely be a deal braker.
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Only one story summary-please!!
Hi akav
I have seen you have open other thread about that (Ceramic??), because I assume you are talking about the same watch, Isn't it?
Now the subject is a little confused and it is a little difficult to follow the matter.
PLEASE
POST IN ONE OF THE THREADS (JUST A ONLY POST) THE COMPLETE SUMMARY OF THE STORY TO CAN FOLLOW THE DISCUSSION.
I will reply and give my opinion when I have the summary, because it is an interesting thing.
Thanks
ALE
Hi akav
I have seen you have open other thread about that (Ceramic??), because I assume you are talking about the same watch, Isn't it?
Now the subject is a little confused and it is a little difficult to follow the matter.
PLEASE
POST IN ONE OF THE THREADS (JUST A ONLY POST) THE COMPLETE SUMMARY OF THE STORY TO CAN FOLLOW THE DISCUSSION.
I will reply and give my opinion when I have the summary, because it is an interesting thing.
Thanks
ALE
I think it's also important to remember that ceramic can be scratched, although difficult. Not only can it be scratched by harder materials but softer materials when applied in concentrated area (like a pinpoint/edge) with force can result in a scratch.
Not to mention this is a ceramic coating, is it not? If so the coating would be made up of small ceramic particles and it would be much more prone to "scratching" than a solid ceramic case. You would not really need to scratch the ceramic particles in order to get a scratch on the case but rather just apply enough force to loosen the bond between the coating and the metal (considerable less).
Just my 2c
Not to mention this is a ceramic coating, is it not? If so the coating would be made up of small ceramic particles and it would be much more prone to "scratching" than a solid ceramic case. You would not really need to scratch the ceramic particles in order to get a scratch on the case but rather just apply enough force to loosen the bond between the coating and the metal (considerable less).
Just my 2c
Oh, sorry for create two threads about the same watch.
I'm start thinking that this totally doomed watch.
First a that white mark, a 30 minutes ago they stopped and finally, when I just saw the back cover, one half of the strap remains in my hands, because a one bolt was lost.
icard:About "white mark" its look like i'm scratched the sandblasted ceramic coating outside. Just when placed watch on the rubber pad. So you can imagine quality of this ceramic coat.
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Dear akav
I canno't help you because your isuue or issues are very confused for me.
Firstly you have a watch with QC pics problems.
Then Angus change the watch and you receive a good watch following your comments.
Suddenly you have several issues at the same time.
The mark in back seems a mark of the secrewdriver which was scratched by the ceramic.
The mark in outer case seems the same with another metal, try to remove it with the ink eraser you have.
The watches like this watch are not ceramic coated are made of real ceramic. So the white stain usually cannot be a scratch.
"a 30 minutes ago they stopped" I don't understand what you are meaning.
Anyway, why were you so happy and suddenly you get the problems?
If you think that it is a Puretime problem you must claim to the dealer. But only if you have all well managed.
We will keep in contact
Please inform us about the future process.
ALE
I canno't help you because your isuue or issues are very confused for me.
Firstly you have a watch with QC pics problems.
Then Angus change the watch and you receive a good watch following your comments.
Suddenly you have several issues at the same time.
The mark in back seems a mark of the secrewdriver which was scratched by the ceramic.
The mark in outer case seems the same with another metal, try to remove it with the ink eraser you have.
The watches like this watch are not ceramic coated are made of real ceramic. So the white stain usually cannot be a scratch.
"a 30 minutes ago they stopped" I don't understand what you are meaning.
Anyway, why were you so happy and suddenly you get the problems?
If you think that it is a Puretime problem you must claim to the dealer. But only if you have all well managed.
We will keep in contact
Please inform us about the future process.
ALE
Dear ALE7575,
sorry for my english, it's not very well
Yes, firstly i have a little misunderstanding with Puretime about QC pics with problems, but Angus fixed it very soon.
So, i order second watch from Angus, the same PAM292.
QC pics of second watch is ok at start.
I'm got both watch in perfect condition, so i'm not think that its Puretime problem.
It's problem a factory quality, and this happen some time ever with gen watch. And i always says that a buy chinas watch by internet - it's a lottery, just till this time i was always lucky
First watch is ok. Second just got a tiny but a bright white mark. Marks near lugs i remove with the ink eraser. But this white mark can't be remove by ink eraser, or by easy scrath (i afraid scratch strong so not make this hole bigger). It's look like tiny hole in black paint over shiny metal.
Sure, i can paint in with black marker, just needfind really strong one. Usually markers easy erased from this mark - like from metal.
And i lost bolt from lug just because not tied it well, i think. So it's unscrewed out. I'm lucky that this happen when i sit at home - but not in subway
sorry for my english, it's not very well
Yes, firstly i have a little misunderstanding with Puretime about QC pics with problems, but Angus fixed it very soon.
So, i order second watch from Angus, the same PAM292.
QC pics of second watch is ok at start.
I'm got both watch in perfect condition, so i'm not think that its Puretime problem.
It's problem a factory quality, and this happen some time ever with gen watch. And i always says that a buy chinas watch by internet - it's a lottery, just till this time i was always lucky
First watch is ok. Second just got a tiny but a bright white mark. Marks near lugs i remove with the ink eraser. But this white mark can't be remove by ink eraser, or by easy scrath (i afraid scratch strong so not make this hole bigger). It's look like tiny hole in black paint over shiny metal.
Sure, i can paint in with black marker, just needfind really strong one. Usually markers easy erased from this mark - like from metal.
And i lost bolt from lug just because not tied it well, i think. So it's unscrewed out. I'm lucky that this happen when i sit at home - but not in subway
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Yes, you are right saying that a replica is a little lottery, but in a different way as you mean.
You can have a problem with a movement Asian 7750, or have a loosening screw or a date window of the center…. But if you are buying a watch made of SS 316L polished you should receive a SS 316L polished watch, and if you are buying a real ceramic case you should receive a real ceramic case not a SS PVD coated case. That is not lottery even in replica world.
Therefore if you think or can prove that your watch is Metal PVD coated instead real ceramic and you asked the dealer and pay it for a real ceramic watch you MUST demand to have a real ceramic watch, this is not the lottery we are talking about.
So, look carefully your watch, look your initial order and the payment and if you have ordered and paid real ceramic and the watch received from Puretime is Metal coatedl, contact immediately Puretime with the problem.
In case you have not reply I will study the issue and if it is clear I will try by myself for a solution with Angus.
But, please, you must be sure about you are doing and demanding, before to involve the forum in a claim.
It would be intersting if you can ask Angus to read this thread and post in it his opinion.
ALE
You can have a problem with a movement Asian 7750, or have a loosening screw or a date window of the center…. But if you are buying a watch made of SS 316L polished you should receive a SS 316L polished watch, and if you are buying a real ceramic case you should receive a real ceramic case not a SS PVD coated case. That is not lottery even in replica world.
Therefore if you think or can prove that your watch is Metal PVD coated instead real ceramic and you asked the dealer and pay it for a real ceramic watch you MUST demand to have a real ceramic watch, this is not the lottery we are talking about.
So, look carefully your watch, look your initial order and the payment and if you have ordered and paid real ceramic and the watch received from Puretime is Metal coatedl, contact immediately Puretime with the problem.
In case you have not reply I will study the issue and if it is clear I will try by myself for a solution with Angus.
But, please, you must be sure about you are doing and demanding, before to involve the forum in a claim.
It would be intersting if you can ask Angus to read this thread and post in it his opinion.
ALE
Angus said that " Yes the HF claims they are 100% ceramic, but I did got some report about scratches, I think it is because you sratched the sandblasted ceramic coating out side."
So, am i must take knife or scredriwer and try scratch watch near white mark, for see what is inside?
So, am i must take knife or scredriwer and try scratch watch near white mark, for see what is inside?
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The sanblasted ceramic is not a coating layer, it is just the finishing of the mould which gives the case shape to the ceramic material. The real ceramic material should be impossible to scratch by a metal.
IMO you must not touch the ceramic with a screwdriver or similar. If you are sure the white stain is shine metal you should talk to Angus and return the watch to check by himself or factory.
ALE
IMO you must not touch the ceramic with a screwdriver or similar. If you are sure the white stain is shine metal you should talk to Angus and return the watch to check by himself or factory.
ALE
I don't sure that its metal. I can't understand. It's less 1 mm spot, just it white bright dot on dark black case and you can't miss it when look on the watch.
I'm sure only in the fact that this is not the outside (no dirt, no paint, no metal from the screwdriver), it's like a missed tiny flakes of black paint, but I can not scratch it more even with a knife. I cannot imagine how and what way I can do that accidently.
Maybe it's real sandblast ceramic case, just white inside and coated some type of black paint. But when case was coated on fabric - in this place was a tiny sand or something like, and then it's get lost and show white ceramic inside. I think it's most realistic scenario.
For return watch i must pay for EMS shipping about 56 US$ and lost about 1 day on post and customs, i'm not very happy about that.
Sorry, but it's all a lottery even for a gen watch
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