Is Davidsen 111h any good?

[phoenixgod]

Hi guys, I've finally decide to buy my first pam. Would a newly upgraded Pam 111h from davidsen be good enough? any other recommendations?

I'm eyeing on one blueish torq color strap from HKTAN too, wonder if it'll suit the pam.
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=34298

Many thanks for the input. Taka if you read this msn me xD

 

[WatchDude13]

It will blow your mind. Sure, there might be slight font issues should you take a picture and blow it up 20 times on your computer screen. Sure you might have to file the CG pin a little bit to make it look perfect. Other than that, 99%+ of the population could not tell the difference between a DSN and a gen, especially on your wrist.

I've owned two DSN watches (both since sold) and have one that should be here any day now. As far as reps - they are very nice.

Older 005

113

Go for it!

 

[phoenixgod]

Thanks for the input. I just visited Trusty time's website and it seems that his premium $798 pam 251 daylight swiss valjoux is pulling me xD. However the turn off for me is that its not superlumed. Does anyone know how much will it cost to get it superlumed and who can i ask to do it?RBJ?
ZOMG the pam 113 looks SWEET, GEORGEOUS AND ELEGANT. I'm in love...can someone post a better pic of davidsen recently upgraded 111h?it seems that he needs to invest in a new camera xD :lol:

 

[WatchDude13]

$798? Ouch, that approaches a moderately priced used gen (non-PAM of course) or 2 Davidsens + a strap or two. I don't know that I'd do it.

Thought my 112 would be in today, no such luck. . .

 

[brtelec]

Davidson's products are as good or better than anything out there. I have found that for PAMs, DSN, TWP and Angus are all safe bets for receiving a great value for your PAM money. Happy hunting! 8)

 

[cybee]

another option if you have the patience is wait for one to surface from a respected member...I bought a modded 111F and a Fiddy from a couple of great members and saved a lot of money too...as these watches go up in price buying used is not a bad option.

 

[justaguy88]

While Davidsen makes a number of extremely accurate pam reps, the 111h is definitely not one of the them. The numeral fonts are SO far off it's easily spottable as a rep from a number of feet away. Take a look for yourself and pull up a gen 111h picture. Furthermore, the crown and crown guard could use a lot of work...

Davidsen watches I'd consider purchasing are his 127, 112h, 082, and is 113. Dont let these suggestions limit you, as there are several other DSN watches that are also top notch.....just not the 111h IMHO

 

[MK08]

Yeah I agree the Davidsens dials have always been his Achilles' heel, and no one is close on the historic crown guard. Your better bet might be to go with a pre-G series 111 (before the thicker brushed crownguard was introduced) check out Angus 111E, other than needing a relume, it's pretty sweet right out of the box.

 

[hooligan]

Yeah I agree the Davidsens dials have always been his Achilles' heel, and no one is close on the historic crown guard. Your better bet might be to go with a pre-G series 111 (before the thicker brushed crownguard was introduced) check out Angus 111E, other than needing a relume, it's pretty sweet right out of the box.

Well, since we're nit-picking about fonts, I have to point out that Angus' U111E (as well as most reps, but NOT Davidsen's) have crossbars on the "A"s that are too low when compared with gens. I have one of Angus' 111s, so I know. Look at the "A"s on the two DSN watches above, much more accurate.

Also, the crown on that watch (U111E), while thick, is completely inaccurate. Just as inaccurate, if not more so, than Davidsen's. The CG is really nice, though.

So, like nearly all things replica (especially Panerai related), it's pick the flaws you can or can't live with.

 

[brtelec]

At least with dealers as reputable as DSN and Angus, you get the luxury of just having to decide which flaws you can live with. It beats deciding which one you want then hoping not to get screwed. We are definitely spoiled.

 

[MK08]

Well, since we're nit-picking about fonts, I have to point out that Angus' U111E (as well as most reps, but NOT Davidsen's) have crossbars on the "A"s that are too low when compared with gens. I have one of Angus' 111s, so I know. Look at the "A"s on the two DSN watches above, much more accurate.

Also, the crown on that watch (U111E), while thick, is completely inaccurate. Just as inaccurate, if not more so, than Davidsen's. The CG is really nice, though.

So, like nearly all things replica (especially Panerai related), it's pick the flaws you can or can't live with.

Touche, as is always the case with reps it's pick your poison, although I would say that it's possible to swap the Angus 111E crown for something more visually accurate, while their is no fix in hades for the historic crownguard (unless you happen upon a gen). And while the A's on Davidsen's dial may be closer to gen, the jury's still out on the rest of it.

 

[WatchDude13]

What you DO have to admit is. . . .



















. . . some of my pictures rock! Right :?:

:lol:

 

[hooligan]

Touche, as is always the case with reps it's pick your poison, although I would say that it's possible to swap the Angus 111E crown for something more visually accurate, while their is no fix in hades for the historic crownguard (unless you happen upon a gen). And while the A's on Davidsen's dial may be closer to gen, the jury's still out on the rest of it.

Yes, absolutely. And it seems to be different from one dial to the next. Davidsen's dial in his 111E is miles off. It uses the fatter markers like his PAM040 dial, just in white and with "L Swiss L" instead of "T-Swiss-T". Which would be pretty good for a PAM000 or PAM005, as they use fatter markers than the other sausage dials (are you listening David?), but is completely wrong for the 111.

 

[MK08]

What you DO have to admit is. . . .


















. . . some of my pictures rock! Right :?:




:lol:

:lol: :lol: They absolutely do bro, sorry for not saying it before, you are a true artist

 

[phoenixgod]

lol qft, the reason i'm gonna order that 113 would be your pic
the montecristo is a nice background. would have been better with siglo VI

anyway, anyone found any flaw from trusty's daylight 251 swiss? am getting it despite the $798 price tag. I guess i need to know what flaws it has before i transfer the money over

 

[WatchDude13]

lol qft, the reason i'm gonna order that 113 would be your pic
the montecristo is a nice background. would have been better with siglo VI

anyway, anyone found any flaw from trusty's daylight 251 swiss? am getting it despite the $798 price tag. I guess i need to know what flaws it has before i transfer the money over

This?

:shock:

Don't think I'd drop that for a rep, no matter how perfect. Not my cup of tea, I'd pick up a few DSN PAMs and a nice strap or two before this one, but if it's your grail watch. . .

 

[horologie_unitas]

my five DEUTSCHMARKS:

you are buying and paying for a replica watch.
for the money of a DVSN 111H...you get a full package -damn good replica watch for your money. flaws...yes they all have them.
but how much perfectness and accuracy are you looking for ? let me tell you something....i went to Neiman Marcus watch show....
watchmakers and professionals from Breguet, TAG, Breitling, Chronoswiss, - i was scared shitless, so many people were looking at my wrist,
nobody called it. Davidsens watches even had the Ristis guessing for days...if real or no.

i think its a pretty good watch for the money. but.... i am not THAT anal....for less money...go buy the latest Casio G-Shock.

 

[WatchDude13]

my five DEUTSCHMARKS:

you are buying and paying for a replica watch.
for the money of a DVSN 111H...you get a full package -damn good replica watch for your money. flaws...yes they all have them.
but how much perfectness and accuracy are you looking for ? let me tell you something....i went to Neiman Marcus watch show....
watchmakers and professionals from Breguet, TAG, Breitling, Chronoswiss, - i was scared shitless, so many people were looking at my wrist,
nobody called it. Davidsens watches even had the Ristis guessing for days...if real or no.

i think its a pretty good watch for the money. but.... i am not THAT anal....for less money...go buy the latest Casio G-Shock.

I agree 110%!

His are pretty damn good, I just got this and I seriously doubt anyone has the balls to call it out unless they get if off my wrist and REALLY inspect it. . .

 

[JOEJOEJOE]

I'm probably among one of the pickiest members here in terms of Panerai replicas and I just want to add that DSN's products are generally good, but his 111H is not one of them.

I am not even addressing the details here, it's the overall proportion (size & placement) of the number markers and fonts on the dial... it's very very off. For example, the number markers are too close to the edge of the dial, so the dial looks very stretched out.

Over the holiday break, I had a chance to inspect 111H very closely in person (My friend in Seattle recently bought a used one off Risti), and this experience reminded me again how off our 111H replicas are (not just DSN's but others too). Even the weight was off considerably. I had PT's 111E with me to show him and my friend's 111H was about 30% heavier. Case sizes were consistent, but the CGs were very different. Gen 111H's CG is completely different in terms of shape and size, and it's not supposed to look like polished CGs that Panerai used to put out prior to its G series. These are not details. It's the overall feel and shape of the watch I am addressing. I almost wished I had a replica 111H with me to show all the differences in pictures.

This goes for Radiomir Pams as well. All replica Radiomir Pam cases are way too round. About a year and a few months ago, I brought my 183 (which I no longer own) to an AD to compare it to gen 183, and I was shocked how different feel the gen had. Gen looked much bigger because the case was much more square. Details were pretty dead on in terms of the font color and size, but they looked like different watches.

I agree DSN's 10D, 113, 127E (certain versions he had at one point) are much better and perhaps the best out of the box you can buy for those models. But his 111H needs a complete re-engineering/designing (from scratch) - new dial and CG & Davidsen, please help us and bring us the perfect 111 - you will sell thousands!

Just my two cents

J

 

[phoenixgod]

Oh my god. Thanks GUys for such a great response on the topic. I did order the 251 White Dial from trusty and it'll probably arrive in a few more days.

(watchdude, i dont think trusty has the white 251 swiss on the website, however there is another post in theforum :
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35332
Check it out.)

But next one on the list would probably be the 113 from davidsen due to such a raving review from its wearer. I would definitely post pictures of the 251 once i have it in my hand