I have been honing in on my watchmaking skills, but I have an Achilles heel...

saucin · 13/10/20

d3s19n said:
But actually I believe RSC replaces hytrel rings after every bezel removal, ie. They do get damaged on bezel removals and/ or shouldnt be reused more than a few times

It’d be nice if I could find a place to buy hytrel rings that work with the correct reps. I might see if my TD can source me some... would save me a lot of stress.

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Muskandar · 13/10/20

Ex-ki said:
What do you think about this version of the bezel remover (Horotec or Chinese clone)?

EDIT - Ok, my answer is here: https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...al-guide/page2

I'm curious to hear input on this question as well
The problem I immediately see might arise is that one side is an anchor point, and one side is used to slip under the bezel.
The other tool has 4 points of entry under the bezel. This model only has one. Which leads me to believe it will come off unevenly, if it even comes off at all. I assume the bezel fit is very tight, and trying to remove it from one side (entry point) would cause it to jam on the opposite side. Possibly the watch head could be removed and rotated around to avoid this, but it seems an unnecessary issue to deal with given there are other tools that would rectify it by design.

Id still like to hear from someone who has experience with this model, or any insight.

Ex-ki · 13/10/20

Muskandar said:
Id still like to hear from someone who has experience with this model, or any insight.

KJ2020 >> Dr Fun Socks said that you use the Chinese clone model and you're happy with it?

KJ2020 · 13/10/20

Ex-ki said:
What do you think about this version of the bezel remover (Horotec or Chinese clone)?

EDIT - Ok, my answer is here: https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...rs/8689930-ceramic-insert-removal-guide/page2

I'm not a fan of a single point of lifting on a ceramic insert bezel. Too much risk of damage due to uneven liftimg

KJ2020 · 14/10/20

Ex-ki said:
KJ2020 >> Dr Fun Socks said that you use the Chinese clone model and you're happy with it?

I have a larger, more expensive one also which I posted on pg 1. I bought the cheaper one to use temporarily because I damaged a couple blades on the larger one. But it works well too, never failed me when I've used it.

Oascom · 14/10/20

I think it's best to use many points of contact instead of one like in the picture above.

here is my tool:

And this is bergeon I use:

Muskandar · 14/10/20

oascom dang bro, you've got the dream team of bezel remover tools!!
I'm drooling over these pics.
AND in the background ALL those watch tools!!
+1 from me

Oascom · 14/10/20

Muskandar said:
oascom dang bro, you've got the dream team of bezel remover tools!!
I'm drooling over these pics.
AND in the background ALL those watch tools!!
+1 from me

Heh thanks,

That's true, got tons of fun tools but still not enough, gotta buy compressor and waterproof tester soon... Goin to cost me arm and leg.

Ex-ki · 14/10/20

Thank you oascom and KJ2020!

I think for my part I'll buy the best compromise which seems to be the Horotec 07.117, before investing in the Bergeon 8820 when I have more money to spend on tools.

saucin · 14/10/20

oascom said:
Heh thanks,

That's true, got tons of fun tools but still not enough, gotta buy compressor and waterproof tester soon... Goin to cost me arm and leg.

Did you get your new automatic ultrasonic cleaner yet?

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Oascom · 14/10/20

saucin said:
Did you get your new automatic ultrasonic cleaner yet?

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Working on a deal right now

Muskandar · 15/10/20

Is the 4 point horotec bezel lifter worth the price?
The reason I ask is because the Chinese model is approx a 4th of the price.

Complete · 15/10/20

This one from china for $45 works fine for me.

But I’m not a watchmaker expert.

Ex-ki · 15/10/20

Muskandar said:
Is the 4 point horotec bezel lifter worth the price?
The reason I ask is because the Chinese model is approx a 4th of the price.

Oascom answers to this in another thread yesterday.
He said that the Chinese clone works but since blades are not sharp enough it can scratch bezels (especially the most difficult to remove).

Oascom · 15/10/20

If you work on your own watches chinese copy will be enough just be careful and put a plastic on and tripe chech everything

pancorjackhammer · 15/10/20

Complete said:
This one from china for $45 works fine for me.

But I’m not a watchmaker expert.

I want to change the bezel of my vsf planet ocean. I have a complete replacement bezel and insert at hand. Do these work for bezels on different watch models? Will I need a press to put the new bezel in place or can I just press with my fingers? Last time I tried this on a sub c, I removed the xtal with the bezel and had to send the watch to a pro in the end, i am wondering what to do...

Complete · 15/10/20

pancorjackhammer said:
I want to change the bezel of my vsf planet ocean. I have a complete replacement bezel and insert at hand. Do these work for bezels on different watch models? Will I need a press to put the new bezel in place or can I just press with my fingers? Last time I tried this on a sub c, I removed the xtal with the bezel and had to send the watch to a pro in the end, i am wondering what to do...

Sorry I don’t know what you should do.

Ex-ki · 15/10/20

pancorjackhammer said:
I want to change the bezel of my vsf planet ocean. I have a complete replacement bezel and insert at hand. Do these work for bezels on different watch models? Will I need a press to put the new bezel in place or can I just press with my fingers? Last time I tried this on a sub c, I removed the xtal with the bezel and had to send the watch to a pro in the end, i am wondering what to do...

In principle these tools are suitable for a majority of bezel models. But be careful using it, as it was said above depending on the quality you take more or less risk of breaking something during the operation.

Muskandar · 16/10/20

pancorjackhammer said:
I want to change the bezel of my vsf planet ocean. I have a complete replacement bezel and insert at hand. Do these work for bezels on different watch models? Will I need a press to put the new bezel in place or can I just press with my fingers? Last time I tried this on a sub c, I removed the xtal with the bezel and had to send the watch to a pro in the end, i am wondering what to do...

This question was kind of answered by KJ2020 in post #10 of this thread.

Muskandar · 16/10/20

I'm thinking about buying this stand.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/N07115-Wat...405319?hash=item366528c787:g:HYsAAOSw0Q5e7rKq
52.50 on eBay
Then upgrading it with this Horotec attachment here.
https://www.esslinger.com/bezel-remover-adaper-pair-for-horotec-watch-snap-on-case-back-opener
139.95 on Ofrei

Thoughts??

I don't like the generic tools with only one arm.
The crab style with two support anchored arms seems to me like it would work better.

To be clear ill post this link
This bezel remover on has one arm attached to the base, but the above has two support arms.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WATCH-BEZEL-REMOVAL-TOOL-FOR-OMEGA-SPEEDMASTER-WATCH/310959766555?hash=item4866a57c1b:g:0C4AAOSwxbJe6Nqw\

Thoughts please??

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