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Hublot big bang with ceramic bezel.....

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Hublot big bang with ceramic bezel
what are the differences from http://www.silix-prime.com/product.asp?id=2014
Hublot Big Bang with Black Ceremic Bezel
MOVEMENT?Asian 7750 Automatic 28,800 Beat
PRICE? 425USD
DETAIL? Dimension: 48mm x 14mm
Movement: Asian 7750 automatic, 28.8K beat
Dial: Black, carbon fibre dial, and running second at 9
Bezel: Black ceremic
Case: Stainless steel, brushed
Strap: Black rubber strap
Glass: Sapphire, with AR double coated
Water-proof/Water-resistant: Yes
and that : http://www.hublow.com/index.php?main...&products_id=4
$998.00
MOVEMENT: New Asia Valjoux 7750 (28,800bph)
CASE DIAMETER: 44.5mm
THICKNESS: 16mm
DIAL COLOR: Black Dial with SS Arabic/Stick Markers
CASE MATERIAL: Solid Stainless Steel 316L
BRACELET: Resilient Rubber Strap with Deployant Folding Buckle
FRONT GLASS: Sapphire Crystal with DOUBLE AR
BACK GLASS: Sapphire Display Case Back
BEZEL: Brushed Black Ceramic Bezel
HACK MOVEMENT: Yes
CLASP TYPE: Deployant Folding Clasp
DATE INDICATOR: At 4:30 position
Why so difference of price? is justificate?
 

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Hi,
these come from 2 different manufacturers and both are overpriced.
The most expensive is slightly better from the replication point of view, but I would advise you get the cheaper.

For your information, the higher priced model started at about half its price something like one year ago. The high demand and the lack of competition (until manufacturer 2 chimed in), as well as the greed of some dealers made the HBB prices reach levels over 1000 USD, which is IMO nonsense for an Asian movement based replica.
Look at my review of the HBB (signature) and you'll understand that these watches should not exceed 300-400 dollars.

The webstore you mention (Hublow) is one of the numerous avatars of Trustytime and Perfect-Clones. Hope you're not a shill ? ;)
 

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Here's a repost of my comparison between V1 and V2, in May. It might help understanding that we're talking about small differences that are not worth to be paid.

Hi Folks,

I have been delivered today with the Watchmark version (the 405 USD one). I must confess that this watch is not for me, but for a good friend of mine. But I'll keep it until sunday, so please feel free to ask any question.

I'm starting this thread not to make a review against the gen (experts please chime in if there are obvious points to be mentionned), but to compare what I have come to call the V1 against the V2.

V1 stands for the manufacturer1 version, i.e. the one we have all known. Although my V1 was a lite version, I consider it as being the same as far as the construction is concerned. The differences between the "V1 lite" and the "V1 plain" version were :
- no AR coating, which was fixed afterwards with a Jakub's Ar coating
- 21,6 kbph movement against 28,8 kbph
- smooth SS PVD coated bezel against knurled ceramic. I have upgraded to a SS PVD coated knurled one thanks to UB7
My V1 is the SS version.

V2 stands for manufacturer2 version. It is commonly admitted that this is a rep of the rep. Due to a price which is higher than the lite version (that BTW seem to have disappeared) but lower, much lower than the "plain version", the big question is : "how does it stand" against the expensive one ?
The V2 is the RG version.

The answer (hopefully) in pictures is about to follow.

For me, the main difference (except of course the movement) comes from the strap, as for the rest, we're only speaking of details.
Why the strap ?
It's actually a much softer rubber, which IMO feels cheaper. It's fortunately not the extremely cheap rubber we can see on some Omega PO or on the Chopard GTXL. From what I have experienced today, it takes dust inside, but the outside (maybe thanks to its shape) does not attract dust, at least not much. So most of us will live with this, I'm sure. The most demanding buyers will be able to upgrade to the stiff version for less than 40 USD, as far as I recall Angus prices (who seem to be the only one selling spare parts). Also the V2 version looks absolutely matt, against a satin (almost glossy) finish for the V2.
Honestly I prefer the V1 finish, although noone would really notice the thing if they did not have both ones side by side.
I leave it to you for judging from pics.

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Here you can see the dust inside and the softness of the V2.
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The embossed markings inside are better on the V1.
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A side by side. The second one is something I usually don't do : using the flashlight. But I tought it gives an idea of the AR coating. The V2 has an AR which is hardly noticeable. But it exists : I particularly noticed it when I put water on the dial (to check it's sapphire, and it IS). There, the typical blue hue appeared. I would tend to say it's a single AR coating, but actually am unable to prove that. There you'll also see that the dust does not affect the outside of both straps. That's good to know for those who, like me, hate cheap straps.
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Caseback markings look both good. I'm not mentionning the contents, as it seems there are different markings according to the versions.
The V1 has stickers on the rotor, whereas the V2 has real engraving, which feels a bit more like the gen, but before all will avoid dramas with letters falling in the movement.
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Deployment clasps are almost identical. The markings on the V2 are bolder, somehow not as well finished than on the V1. But still more than acceptable. I have the feeling that the V2 digs less in the wrist, but that might be an effect of the softer strap.
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Sides look absolutely the same to me, except the crown logo which is bolder on the V2. The V2 has no screw-down crown, it is the same standard system as on the V1 : pull-out, push-in :lol: Looks slightly different in the construction.
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It has been also said that there's a pattern difference in the V2's dial. It's true. The pattern in the small squares is less marked, but does exist. I must say you can't notice that by naked eyes. (both pictures are from V2)
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Last difference which is in favour of the V2 IMO : looks like a tiny detail, but it's an automatic tell for those knowing the 7750 movement. Look at the rotor screw of the V2 : it's smooth, which feels more like the gen.
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Conclusion : Those having paid a lot for the "plain" V1 version did not pay for nothing. It's surely the best version around. However, we have an excellent alternative for those willing to pay a more "common" price.
I forgot something : the bezel.
Impossible for me to say if it's PVD coated steel or ceramic. Actually the screws are not the same exactly and I could not use my V1 H tool to detach the bezel. I have unscrewed one screw : looks grey inside, but I'm unable to say if it's the grey of the steel, or the grey of raw drilled ceramic. Also, the screws of V1 simply won't fit in V2. Be carefull if you have to change one (i.e. order from Angus)
Honestly, I don't think it's that important.


An other Version has popped up recently, it's Silix's one. Basically it is the V2 with a different bezel (looks wrong as it's flat). It has the high beat movement. No idea about the quality of the strap. It stands between Watchmark's version and the V1 we know. I tend to believe that it's a special manufacturing or modding done for or by Silix, as I don't think there's a 3rd manufacturer around. Until proven ;)


Hope that was useful.

[Edit] 7th May. Evildee informs us that the rehault is wrong against the gen. It should be gold, whereas here we have a silver one. Although my intention was not to compare to the gen but to the V1, I think that this point is important enough to be mentionned, and not to mislead anyone.
 

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Thanks for the hard work. I have 4 V1's and even the look a bit different. I really liked seeing yours side by side.
 

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As far as I know, neither Silix nor Trusty have an engraved rotor.
There are engraved rotors here on Timesshop.net
Be careful as he carries both models.