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How good are the new AP ROO 44mm reps?

mysterio

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Christ both sides need to grow up. Following rules blindly didn't work in Nuremberg for the Nazis and flaunting reps is just silly. I use this hobby to test drive potential acquisitions, so coming from my perspective, this sounds like whiny teenager harangue. I'm with Danialq, let's all have a beer and relax so we can enjoy the boards sans lynching.

Didn't think we'd apply Godwin's law this early. Sheesh. :facepalm:

There is a reason for the rules, it has been explained. So are you following rules blindly? No. There is the saying, "When in Rome do what the Romans do." Do you go to any community or country and piss on their rules because you think you are above their rules or you think it is plain silly or stupid? Simples.
 

tmorgan

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Again, there is a difference between breaking the rules, and saying they're silly.

We all know if we break them, there are consequences, so we abide by them.

Beers? I'll buy the first round!
 

wittnauer

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Again, there is a difference between breaking the rules, and saying they're silly.

We all know if we break them, there are consequences, so we abide by them.

Beers? I'll buy the first round!

I will be there my friend and I will get the second round.
You can show us your expensive jeans too alongside your wrist bling. GTG are always fun.

cheers!
 

Yourlefttoe

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If ANY of you think what I did was "against fight club rules" just get over yourself and GROW UP!!! I will casually wear any watch I chose into any environment I see fit... PA LEEZE
Mate,

You may disrespect those Vegas ADs by wearing your reps and showing off to your mates, but to disrespect these forums which give you access and information to the aforementioned reps is a DOG act

Btw your gens? Noone cares how many invictas you have
 

Miguel Piguet

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Mate,

You may disrespect those Vegas ADs by wearing your reps and showing off to your mates, but to disrespect these forums which give you access and information to the aforementioned reps is a DOG act

Btw your gens? Noone cares how many invictas you have

Calm down , stop picking on the poor guy.... So many people have done that already, you don't have to join the Queue haha ..... It's enough why don't we just change topic, he knows what not to do again. This topic is dragging on and getting boring lol.
 

jpohl402

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He knows what not to do again. This topic is dragging on and getting boring lol.


Actually bud, the last thing the OP stated, on page 3, was that he will do whatever he pleases.
Just throwing that out there, but whatever....
 

slaughterer62

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To go in a different direction with this thread: I worked on my 44mm FC yesterday.
Goal was to insert retaining nuts on the 4 bezels screws that do not have them: the ones at 2, 4, 8 and 10 o'clock.
Some modders are gluing these screws in to keep them from falling out: this is an unacceptable solution for me since the glue fumes destroy the dial & movement and the glue makes the watch partially disassemblable.
I got to look inside, look closer with loupe, and handle the hardware.
With FC it is possible to insert retaining nuts on those 4 screws, but you need to deepen the hole for those nuts from the backside a good 2.5mm deeper (likewise on the 44mm Panda but there you have to drill out metal rather than FC). If you do not deepen the hole, the retaining nut will block the case back end nuts from fastening fully onto the bezel screws.
I deepened the hole with a special circular flat bit the same size as the hole while protecting the inside of the watch, because I knew drilling would throw up a lot of FC particles.
Inspecting the case back end nuts, I saw that the thread for these starts only halfway into the nut, and that the nut opening is a little too wide for the bezel screws.
In fact, 3 of these case back nuts would not thread at all on the bezel screws: I think they were factory assembled with loctite to keep them on to begin with. This means that the case back nuts are in danger of falling off the watch and releasing the bezel screws if the latter are not secured with a mid-case nut.
I started machining replacement nuts for the 3 or 4 nuts that would not thread, but the slots on these were too big, so I reserved them for some other project.
Then I decided I would slightly crimp the 3 original rep case back nuts to reduce the hole diameter. It worked like a charm with only a little crimping. The 3 fit now snugly on the bezel screw.
Then I noticed the bezel screws were not sunken on the bezel. This is because the rubber washers are pretty thick. I replaced these with much smaller washers to allow the screws to settle below the bezel surface.
In the end, now I feel a lot more secure walking around wearing the watch knowing it is mechanically sound.
Inspecting the movement, it was really clean, much cleaner than some of the other ROO movements I work on.
The hardware, esp. the case back is really well designed, and snug. My esteem for the 44mms improved as I worked on it. This is a nice piece of work.
 

fire007

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To go in a different direction with this thread: I worked on my 44mm FC yesterday.
Goal was to insert retaining nuts on the 4 bezels screws that do not have them: the ones at 2, 4, 8 and 10 o'clock.
Some modders are gluing these screws in to keep them from falling out: this is an unacceptable solution for me since the glue fumes destroy the dial & movement and the glue makes the watch partially disassemblable.
I got to look inside, look closer with loupe, and handle the hardware.
With FC it is possible to insert retaining nuts on those 4 screws, but you need to deepen the hole for those nuts from the backside a good 2.5mm deeper (likewise on the 44mm Panda but there you have to drill out metal rather than FC). If you do not deepen the hole, the retaining nut will block the case back end nuts from fastening fully onto the bezel screws.
I deepened the hole with a special circular flat bit the same size as the hole while protecting the inside of the watch, because I knew drilling would throw up a lot of FC particles.
Inspecting the case back end nuts, I saw that the thread for these starts only halfway into the nut, and that the nut opening is a little too wide for the bezel screws.
In fact, 3 of these case back nuts would not thread at all on the bezel screws: I think they were factory assembled with loctite to keep them on to begin with. This means that the case back nuts are in danger of falling off the watch and releasing the bezel screws if the latter are not secured with a mid-case nut.
I started machining replacement nuts for the 3 or 4 nuts that would not thread, but the slots on these were too big, so I reserved them for some other project.
Then I decided I would slightly crimp the 3 original rep case back nuts to reduce the hole diameter. It worked like a charm with only a little crimping. The 3 fit now snugly on the bezel screw.
Then I noticed the bezel screws were not sunken on the bezel. This is because the rubber washers are pretty thick. I replaced these with much smaller washers to allow the screws to settle below the bezel surface.
In the end, now I feel a lot more secure walking around wearing the watch knowing it is mechanically sound.
Inspecting the movement, it was really clean, much cleaner than some of the other ROO movements I work on.
The hardware, esp. the case back is really well designed, and snug. My esteem for the 44mms improved as I worked on it. This is a nice piece of work.

many thanks for sharing those insights...
 

slaughterer62

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My liking for these 44mm reps has increased over time: the finish, the design, the feel--they all seem ahead of other models, in sum. I have decided to collect all 44mm models.
 

fire007

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My liking for these 44mm reps has increased over time: the finish, the design, the feel--they all seem ahead of other models, in sum. I have decided to collect all 44mm models.

it was about time Slau !!! :):):)
 

Rubberj00

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My liking for these 44mm reps has increased over time: the finish, the design, the feel--they all seem ahead of other models, in sum. I have decided to collect all 44mm models.

I agree, I wasn't a fan on initial release however slowly came round to ordering the RG and genuinely, as you say, the feel & finishing of them I would say are on par with the diver finishing and noticeably better than any of the 42's I own. That said I don't have any of the new j12 42mm releases.

44mm CF next, I think.
 

slaughterer62

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The 44mms sit better on the wrist. Somehow the added surface area on the 44mms allows them to balance better than a 42mm. The 42mms (esp the SS 42mms) tend to flop around because of the high centre of gravity.
 

Rubberj00

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Yeah, they really do, much more comfortable!

So if someone put a theoretical gun to your head and you were allowed 1x 44mm model only (excl. schumi), which would it be? & what strap would it be sat on :D