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How did we not see this
- Thread starter rsh
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mydnytrydr
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- 25/9/09
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Did you get a reply? Because I did, just now, from the seller:
"hi, i have bought alot of rolex and have never been taken yet. is it the first time? this one looks really good. i just opened the back and not sure now? what gives it away? thanks"
... not sure if he's sincere, but good sign as least that it might not be too late for the buyer. Guys, I want to pass along as much info as possible, so please summarize what should be said! Obviously he knows little about Rolex, if he can't tell even after opening the case back.
ps- my message to him read "I'm sure that you have already been contacted, but please do not accept payment for this Submariner. It is not authentic. I make no judgements, and perhaps you were not aware it was not genuine Rolex, but don't let the buyer find out the hard way later."
Those aren't the biggest tells, IMO (although they might be easiest to see).
The case shape is wrong! The rehaut angle is wrong! The rehaut engraving is totally wrong! The pearl is wrong!
When you set the time, the hands will turn the wrong way!
This is an ok rep, I guess, but it's nowhere near a super rep. Not like we sometimes see Omega or PAM frankens. It's totally wrong.
FYI, I sent the seller a follow-up, and just got this:
"thanks, my stomach hurts now. we paid $4000.00 for this one. i wasnt careful enough. this is my first fake purchase and i have been doing this for 25 yrs. thanks for the info. expensive schooling"
... could be lying to throw me off, and knew it was fake / still intends to ship off to the buyer, but maybe, just MAYBE, he won't go through with the transaction.
"thanks, my stomach hurts now. we paid $4000.00 for this one. i wasnt careful enough. this is my first fake purchase and i have been doing this for 25 yrs. thanks for the info. expensive schooling"
... could be lying to throw me off, and knew it was fake / still intends to ship off to the buyer, but maybe, just MAYBE, he won't go through with the transaction.
Sooner or later if you are not careful...and sometimes even if you are careful…
Mistake number one: just because you have seen "a" Rolex or even several or many Rolexes doesn’t mean you have seen them all. Seriously, what watch dealer frequents the AD to see all the latest new watches and changes?
Mistake number two: cockiness - assuming you know how to spot a fake. Experience has the odd effect of actually training people to be dumber, not smarter. The minute you think you know something you are blind to anything that doesn’t match the belief in what you "know" leaving you vulnerable to the unexpected and unknown. (Not that we all don’t suffer from that to one degree or another)
I doubt someone with that much feedback is a scammer, although you never know. I feel for the guy if he was taken.
Mistake number one: just because you have seen "a" Rolex or even several or many Rolexes doesn’t mean you have seen them all. Seriously, what watch dealer frequents the AD to see all the latest new watches and changes?
Mistake number two: cockiness - assuming you know how to spot a fake. Experience has the odd effect of actually training people to be dumber, not smarter. The minute you think you know something you are blind to anything that doesn’t match the belief in what you "know" leaving you vulnerable to the unexpected and unknown. (Not that we all don’t suffer from that to one degree or another)
I doubt someone with that much feedback is a scammer, although you never know. I feel for the guy if he was taken.
... this was my hope / thinking too, seems like with that feedback he'd have a lot to lose trying to pull a scam! You're probably also right about being cocky, every time you see an "expert" talk about spotting a fake Rolex they mention the most laughable stuff.
Give it a few days to see if he gets Feedback, if he does then he has completed the transaction, and we will be able to see buyers details.
E v e r y time I get cocky I get a hard lesson in humility... and still I sometimes catch myself sounding like Prince Humperdink "Unless I am wrong, and I am never wrong..."
And then of course there are the times I get pummled by an ROUS.
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as soon as feedback is left this releases the pending funds by paypal if anyone does buy anything genuine from ebay please get it verified as gen before leaving + feedbvack i think you get 30 days before the funds are released to seller so if it is naff you need to start a dispute within 30 days.