Hmmmm... franken watch selling on Ebay?

[savoy9]

The case looks to be a Viet case.

ROLEX VINTAGE SUBMARINER REF.5508 BLACK REFINISH DIAL GOOD CONDITION SOLD AS IS! | eBay

REFINISH BLACK MATTE DIAL SIGN ROLEX OYSTER PERPETUAL 100M=330 FEET SUBMARINER NICELY DONE IN WHITE LETTERING,WHITE HANDS IN GOOD CONDITION, ORIGINAL ROLEX CROWN. It can be difficult to authenticate a watch part that might be 60 years old.

www.ebay.com

 

[RDRoss]

That movement does not look right for a 1530. Don’t think much of that watch is Gen to be honest. I couldn’t report on the app for some reason but somebody should if they can.

 

[Rx4Time]

Beyond the case not looking correct, The entire balance assembly and bridge does not look correct for a 1530 as far as I know. It looks almost like a 2813 style regulator on there.

 

[Reaps]

Read the description

Mfer trying to make it a flowery wordy statement but basically it says "there are fake parts in it"

"This rebuild is comprised of genuine and aftermarket components all obtained over the last ten years on vintage watch suppliers and eBay."

"It can be difficult to authenticate a watch part that might be 60 years old. Rolex sometimes replaces components in vintage timepieces with similar looking but newly manufactured parts, which adds to the confusion. This watch will not be purchase by a knowledgeable dealer ,experts will only purchase watches that do not have generic or original parts from other periods such as service parts if you buying this watch to offer to such a dealers you will be wasting your time their time and ours. "

LOL basically even saying authentic dealers would call out this piece of ctap instantly

 

[Hesekiel]

Just a couple of weeks ago a 6538 sold on eBay for $8,1K with the same disclaimer.

 

[savoy9]

Just a couple of weeks ago a 6538 sold on eBay for $8,1K with the same disclaimer.

damn that's a lot of $$$ for nothing. I wonder who's this seller is?? I am sure he's on here too.

 

[WatchN3RD]

Someone should post the 1016 he has for sale on the never-ending 1016 thread. There might be an ongoing theme for his genuine watches?

 

[RDRoss]

That movement reminds me of those old “vintage” models Andrew use to sell over I trusty. I haven’t seen one in years though.

Edit. This damn Mother ducker is actually pimping one of Andrew’s old movements.

ROLEXP2012 - Vintage Exp II 1655 SS/SS Blk Swiss Eta 2836/1570 [ROLEXP2012] - $368.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLEXP2012 - Vintage Exp II 1655 SS/SS Blk Swiss Eta 2836/1570 [ROLEXP2012] - Steve McQueen 1655 Vintage Explorer IIA Special Project ......Made with a Genuine Watch .. Fully Dissected .. I : 1 Copy for Case Profile and all internal and external Markings, Plexi Crystal, Bezel...

trustytime888.io

 

[Rx4Time]

I truthfully don't think there's any genuine parts on there. We should probably have someone who's much more well-versed with these give their opinion, but I think it's all Vietnam and I have no clue with that movement beyond nothing looks right for a 1530

 

[RDRoss]

Reported.

 

[Rx4Time]

@tripdog , sorry to bother you, however, you are one of our top vintage experts. When you get a second, can you render your opinion on this listing?

 

[WatchN3RD]

That movement does not look right for a 1530. Don’t think much of that watch is Gen to be honest. I couldn’t report on the app for some reason but somebody should if they can.

The rotor looks like a "Butterfly" rotor found on early 1530 movements from the (late 50's?). Only mentioning in case that's why the movement looks off. For the record, I am not knowledgeable here and don't want to give the impression I am an expert on any 1520 variant.

 

[RDRoss]

The rotor looks like a "Butterfly" rotor found on early 1530 movements from the (late 50's?). Only mentioning in case that's why the movement looks off. For the record, I am not knowledgeable here and don't want to give the impression I am an expert on any 1520 variant.

Not the issue. Check the balance and the layout. Rotor could be a knock off or a Gen but the movement is wrong.

 

[savoy9]

Hands is not correct either, too short. crown not correct either. I believed the brass bezel and insert is a Viet.

 

[KushBandit]

This is the same guy who sold a franken 6538. Insane how eBay allows it.

 

[Rx4Time]

Also, if you look closely, the movement looks like someone intentionally got it dirty, Trying to make it look vintage. It looks like there's dirt in parts of the engraving. I'll be curious what tripdog has to say after he takes a look.

 

[savoy9]

The rotor looks like a "Butterfly" rotor found on early 1530 movements from the (late 50's?). Only mentioning in case that's why the movement looks off. For the record, I am not knowledgeable here and don't want to give the impression I am an expert on any 1520 variant.

Looking at he movement again, looks off. IMHO the movement looks to be franken also.

 

[Feefo]

Moved to the right section

 

[tripdog]

Looks like it has a service insert that someones washed with acid to fade it, the crown is gen, movement looks gen' but a mish-mash of parts from various 15** calibre movements.
Hands and dial look like Phong, I suppose the case could be too.
With all the disclaimers in the ad it's surprising people are bidding, I'm sure there's a shill or 2 in there, the rest are fools thinking they're bidding on a real Rolex.

 

[Got20Mate]

This is actually insane - I've seen a few of these over the years but the fact that all of you have broken it down in the way that you have component by component is scary.