HELP! How to set a VR3135 into beat?

[Ro13x]

Hi,

please could you help me setting a VR3135 into beat?
With adjusting A i got the movement to +5 sec/day but still have the 2.2ms difference.
How to fix that?





Thank you
Marty

 

[fredflintstone]

You need to gently move the single post, #1 till it's correct. Move it one way and see if they get closer together or further apart. If they get further apart that's the wrong way!

How do you have a timegrapher and not know how to use it? Look on YouTube, there's loads of how-to's on how to use one on there Pal.

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[Ro13x]

Thank you!
I know how to set the rate but was not sure how to fix the beat error.
I also was not sure if aI have to loosen some screws to move #1 and #2.

So long
Marty

 

[Ro13x]

fredflintstone
Thank you that worked for me

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[fredflintstone]

Glad to help Mate

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[SS72]

Hey guys, can you please tell me if the VS3135 (assuming it's similar to the VR) has a micro adjustment screw similar to the ETA/A2824, or does it just have the timing and regulating arms? Or is that what the 'A' screw is for? I.e., does it gradully adjust arm '1'?

 

[fredflintstone]

No idea Mate.

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[Logixa]

Hey guys, can you please tell me if the VS3135 (assuming it's similar to the VR) has a micro adjustment screw similar to the ETA/A2824, or does it just have the timing and regulating arms? Or is that what the 'A' screw is for? I.e., does it gradully adjust arm '1'?

It does not have a micro adjustment screw. A and C screws should be loosened in order to turn the gold wheels underneath it. These wheels are to adjust the beat error in various positions other than dial up and dial down. #1 is beat error adjustment and #2 for timing. Before you adjust number 1 and 2, you need to loosen B a little bit.

 

[SS72]

Thank you.

 

[Thinh911]

Im trying to regulate my vr3135 after i washed and oiled it but everytime i adjust #1 to bring down my Beat error the Rate changes as well ???

 

[Logixa]

Thinh911 that is common with these rep movements. Make sure you have loosened the screw at B before adjusting. its helps a bit but still, both will change when adjusting 1 of them.

 

[Thinh911]

Thinh911 that is common with these rep movements. Make sure you have loosened the screw at B before adjusting. its helps a bit but still, both will change when adjusting 1 of them.

Thank you!

 

[Ro13x]

I have a movement which has other deviation in each position?
The deviation vary between 15 seconds depending on the position!
How to get rid of that?
Complete service of the movement or kick it to the trash?

 

[Logixa]

that is normal too. Look up information in regards to movement grades. The higher the grade, the lower the variation in different positions. servicing and adjusting the balance+assemblies can bring it lower but still depends on the grade of the movement. All the SHxxxx movements are comparable to grade "potato".. :rofl:

KJ2020 is much better in giving explanations and very helpful

 

[Ro13x]

it is a VS3235 from the WG YM

 

[Logixa]

the VS and VR movements are better than the SH but still not as good as a gen of course. Still variation difference is normal on all watches.

 

[Ex-ki]

that is normal too. Look up information in regards to movement grades. The higher the grade, the lower the variation in different positions. servicing and adjusting the balance+assemblies can bring it lower but still depends on the grade of the movement. All the SHxxxx movements are comparable to grade "potato".. :rofl:

KJ2020 is much better in giving explanations and very helpful

I experienced that.
With an A2836 or an A2824 you can obtain a perfect 0.0 sec/day on the timegrapher for a position of the watch and +10.0 sec/day for another position...

 

[SS72]

Logixa Thanks for your help in this post. Hoping you can clarify something else for me, as I've searched RWI and Google and can't find the answer . . .

When using a Timegrapher, should I remove the case base or leave it on?

I've tried both and the difference is around - 9 secs per day with the case on and the watch dial up, but removing the case back means the watch is sitting on the rotor plate when placed on the microphone.

 

[Logixa]

Whenever a movement is in the case, a certain amount of pressure will be on the movement due to the movement holders pressing and holding it place. This CAN cause the timing to change in comparison to a caseless movement. This is one of the reasons why I usually do not adjust a movements timing and beat error while it is not yet cased. On certain movements I adjust the timing twice at least, once caseless and once when it's fully cased.

Now when it comes to a caseback, this will not or should not have impact on the timing. Just make sure that when you compare the timings of caseback on VS caseback off is that the watch is in the same position. So in both situations dial down. Plus you can only adjust a timing in dial down position.

 

[SS72]

Much appreciated.

I've put 5 watches on the timegrapher -- 3 gens (2 x 3135 and 1 x 2836) and 3 reps (a VS3135 and 2 x 2824) -- all with the cases on and then off, in the same position, and they all give significantly different readings with the cases on vs off.