Help 1st PAM replica buy

[Kraig]

Hello everyone,
I'm new on the site and i hope to write down this in the right forum section
i'm purchasing my 1st PAM replica and i pointed out 3 models, do you suggest 1 in particular in terms of accuracy?

PAM320 M GMT VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Black Rubber Strap P.9001 Super Clone V2

PAM312 R VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Black Leather Strap P.9000 Super Clone V2

PAM111 P Noob 1:1 Best Edition on Black Rubber Strap A6497 with Y-Incabloc V10

Thank you in advance

 

[mysterio]

In terms of accuracy, PAM111 Noob.

 

[aw4rnock]

Hello everyone,
I'm new on the site and i hope to write down this in the right forum section
i'm purchasing my 1st PAM replica and i pointed out 3 models, do you suggest 1 in particular in terms of accuracy?

PAM320 M GMT VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Black Rubber Strap P.9001 Super Clone V2

PAM312 R VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Black Leather Strap P.9000 Super Clone V2

PAM111 P Noob 1:1 Best Edition on Black Rubber Strap A6497 with Y-Incabloc V10

Thank you in advance

The PAM320 M GMT VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Black Rubber Strap P.9001 Super Clone V2 is a lovely watch, I've owned it for years. The OEM and after market bracelets fit it perfectly (the 2008 & 2017 model metal bracelets). Aside it's minor flaws (3 day power reserve doesn't work), it's a cracking watch

 

[Rickjames111]

I’m going to second Mysterio’s recommendation. The 111 is perfect IMO and very close to GEN. It is the first rep I bought as well.

 

[Taz71]

Pam 111,
Keep it simple, the more details the more room for error!
My first rep was a 111 and I loved it dearly

 

[Blshh]

Pam 312 ,320 still available from TD.

 

[shyreplover]

Yes agree with 111.
Classic panerai look, accurate, movement considered to be reliable and cheap for what you're getting

 

[saxo]

312, totally underrated. Personally I love watches with date display. 320 comes with clone a p9001 which is just a decorated p9000, PR indicator doesn't work, just for show. If that doesn't bother you then it should be just fine.
Any pam that comes from VSF is usually well made.


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[biinary]

I was considering between PAM111 or PAM320. however i read there's issues with the Swan Neck Regulator. Anyone able to share some thoughts and insights on the regulator?

 

[Notenuff]

I’ve just bought a 312 (still in transit) as I couldn’t find a lot of the NWBIG Pams with sandwich dial on the list still for sale. The 312 seems quite new and has solved a lot of the issues I saw in a Gen to replica comparison video i.e. centre of the hands stud (don’t know what it’s called) and the crown guard pin. The one thing they haven’t solved is the rough brush/cut marks on the case near the lugs (see pic). The Gen has much finer brush work there. Otherwise I think it looks really good from the Pics.

 

[mysterio]

I was considering between PAM111 or PAM320. however i read there's issues with the Swan Neck Regulator. Anyone able to share some thoughts and insights on the regulator?

What issues did you read? Other than the swan neck isn't a real one.

 

[biinary]

What issues did you read? Other than the swan neck isn't a real one.

THE LACK OF ELASTICITY OF THE SWAN NECK SPRING – “THE HIDDEN FAULT”
The lack of elasticity of the Swan Neck spring

 

[saxo]

THE LACK OF ELASTICITY OF THE SWAN NECK SPRING – “THE HIDDEN FAULT”
The lack of elasticity of the Swan Neck spring

Im not a panerai expert but I'm pretty sure the swan neck in reps aren't fully functional, if it is then its just the luck of the draw. But it is unlikely to retain its elasticity/shape if any regulation is done. I don't think you will ever realise the flaw. Besides, it does not affect the reliability of the movement, it can be purely cosmetic.


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[t3steve]

How is the timing adjusted (regulated) if the Swan Neck doesn't work?

 

[mysterio]

THE LACK OF ELASTICITY OF THE SWAN NECK SPRING – “THE HIDDEN FAULT”
The lack of elasticity of the Swan Neck spring

Well the fact that the swan neck regulator is faux means it is not made in the same way as the real swan neck and therefore will not work in the same way as a genuine swan neck. So you will encounter the four possible positions of the regulator lever in reference to the swan neck as described in the section you just quoted, of which only one is the ideal position. To correct the other 3 will require some work on the part of the watchmaker, which will entail some cost to you.

How is the timing adjusted (regulated) if the Swan Neck doesn't work?

The timing is controlled by the regulator lever, it is only the swan neck and the micrometric screw that hold the lever from both sides to ensure that this regulation is maintained. But the lever is rigid, unless you impart a very strong force on the watch by way of impact (say you dropped the watch on the floor), then the regulation can be lost and you will have to re-adjust the regulation by moving the regulator lever accordingly.

 

[t3steve]

How difficult is it to tweet it right on.

 

[biinary]

Well the fact that the swan neck regulator is faux means it is not made in the same way as the real swan neck and therefore will not work in the same way as a genuine swan neck. So you will encounter the four possible positions of the regulator lever in reference to the swan neck as described in the section you just quoted, of which only one is the ideal position. To correct the other 3 will require some work on the part of the watchmaker, which will entail some cost to you.



The timing is controlled by the regulator lever, it is only the swan neck and the micrometric screw that hold the lever from both sides to ensure that this regulation is maintained. But the lever is rigid, unless you impart a very strong force on the watch by way of impact (say you dropped the watch on the floor), then the regulation can be lost and you will have to re-adjust the regulation by moving the regulator lever accordingly.

Cool. thanks for the info

 

[biinary]

How difficult is it to tweet it right on.

Check this writeup out. Think it'll provide clearer picture

Also Mysterio is part of the PAM consulting team. I've realized after making order for Pam320. Should have seek Mysterio thoughts further

 

[PAM_BOY]

As mysterio said- In terms of accuracy, PAM111 Noob!