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Getting insid the Chanel J12 (mid grade full ceramic)

Devedander

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Getting inside the J12 Full Ceramic

So a while back I got one of the cheap, enamel painted J12s to see how the GF liked it, at the price for a quartz itseemed like it made sense to get a feel for it before purchasing the full ceramic, especially since I don’t think I will find a gen to check out anywhere locally…

She liked it a lot and so I have sprung for a full ceramic one. Being as how she will be abusing it at work a lot I decided the prudent thing to do was go for the mid grade model, not stainless coated in ceramic, but also not necessarily the super expensive one either.

For just over $200 including a box set this seemed like a good value and being quartz at least I could be assured it would keep good time.

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Note the box is not shown in much detail as it arrived damaged in a lot of places.

So out of the box impressions are the watch is very nice indeed! Despite lacking the last firing step to bring it to the highest level of ceramic shine I can’t say I have any problem with the appearance of this piece at all. The white seems to be decently even over the entirety and with the exception of a tiny brown spot on the case it seems pretty blemish free.

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The watch is surprisingly heavy for a quartz, obviously due to the weight of ceramic, and I think this is emphasized even more by the white color which makes it look almost like a light plastic. On the wrist it has a great feel (yes I did try it on :p) and you can tell it’s a ceramic at first touch. This is the mid grade one so the final firing/polishing step has not been applied to this one (apparently accounts for the price difference) as you can see it's still plenty shiny and for the price I am very satisfied.

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The bracelet has a fair bit of play in it, looser than most SS bracelets. It doesn’t make it feel bad or anything and still looks just fine on the wrist.

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The diamonds are laid neatly in good rows and are held in at all four corners so it appears they should be pretty secure. Sadly the diamonds are inlaid deeply enough that no light is getting behind them so the fire is pretty minimal… again not sure how the gen fairs in this area but I am not sure I can think of a way to have mounted them to allow more light around them and maintain a secure hold for something that will take a beating like a watch…

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That said under some reasonably bright lights (store lighting lets say) the diamonds do shine and sparkle enough to catch the eye. I would assume someone who knows their jewelry would spot it as a cz in no time, but to the average Joe I am sure they will pass as normal mid to low grade diamonds (I doubt anyone will be checking for flaws in watch diamonds).

The dial is also done quite well with the numbers being solid and deep (these are actually 3D, not just drawn on the dial and look to be about 1mm tall). The contrast of the deep, rich black of the numbers against all the white/ss is very eye pleasing in a professional and reserved way. What dial printing there is is quite decent with no obvious issues in quality.

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And the date font faces outwards to match the numbers on this model which I believe is correct.

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The contrast between the diamonds mounted on the SS bezel to the white ceramic and well defined dial really sets off the watch nicely. It’s got a great balance of understated beauty and bling… it doesn’t stick out like an iced grill but it catches the eye and on closer inspection doesn’t fail to impress!

The clasp has the proper spring clasp and functions smoothly. It's got a nice strong spring without being difficult to open, although if you aren’t careful it might pinch the wrist a bit… The caseback has a nice arc to it and is very comfortable;I believe the engravings are appropriate and correct.

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Sizing the bracelet is quite straight forward. It uses a pin system which is a bit odd looking at first but is very easy to work with. You can see a small hole in the side of the “pinâ€
 

maxse

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wow awesome review man, and a lot of pics, cool.

Quick question. It appears I might need this springbar tool to remove the links on my bracelet as well. Which one do you have?
And are you sure the CZ can be easily spotted. It looks pretty good on mine but what do I know about diamonds?
 

Devedander

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I can't tell a diamond from a shapr piece of metal and even less when it's deeply set in a watch bezel... I wouldn't worry.

I got my springbar tool from birdman, I recommend him highly, great service, good products and a fair price.

If I had known about him earlier I wouldn't have bought my crappy beginner toolset off ebay.

He sells in these forums and has his own subsection. Big thumbs up from me.
 

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GREAT REVIEW!!! nice pictures too~!

just what I needed!!! thanks~!

who did you buy it from?
 

RqThrottle

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Fantastic review. Very entertaining.

I would have just removed the movement as you did (removing the 8 screws) and then just apply silicone to the inside edges (you can see light through on the first picture with the movement off) with a toothpick. That would have sealed it nice and tight and you would have saved tons of trouble.

It still looks as if water is going to come in through the crown big time. Its a hack job, but maybe a little dab of grease on the stem (where it meets the case) may stop water from coming in.

In any case, I would avoid getting the watch anywhere near water. It seems to me that watch is as waterproof as a kitchen strainer.
 

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maxse said:
wow awesome review man, and a lot of pics, cool.

Quick question. It appears I might need this springbar tool to remove the links on my bracelet as well. Which one do you have?
And are you sure the CZ can be easily spotted. It looks pretty good on mine but what do I know about diamonds?

you'll want a springbar tool to change out the bracelet, a link/pin tool to remove links - two seperate tools.

AWesome review! Great photos! a lot of detailed work here :) especially the movement pics
 

mike g

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Excellent review- and great pictures!

I've got my girl on board with the replica movement that has invaded my life. She's expressed interest in the same model. I was worried about the quality of the bezel, but your review put those worries to bed.

Her birthday is coming shortly; needless to say I'll be picking this up today. Oh, and a White-Faced Explorer II for myself hehe...


-M
 

Devedander

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still very long way to go.. rep j12 is still not there yet...

I agree the J12 has some MAJOR room to improve... but it's still a looker and considering how few ladies reps are out there... well :)

The waterproof thing does still bother me, but I have told the GF to keep it as dry as possible. In all fairness inacruracies (I believe the 1 in 12 is wrong) don't bother me as much on this watch as they would on one of mine... odd how I am happy with this one at $200 but even a nice ETA rep with flaws like this for me scare me far away :D

For the record this is from Jos Nana.
 

SLK55

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Seeing you review I just order this watch in white for my girlfriend - from Trusty for $208.00
 

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Great review! My wife should take a look at these and leave me the F alone when I'm on the sites!!! :lol:
 

seraphe

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Very informative review! Great pics too! This is precisely what I call educational information we can use to learn about the reps we buy.
 

maxse

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all right guys, instead of starting a new thread I gifugred I would post in this one. My new 33mm white quartz(highest quality) replacement is on its way to me from Josh. Now I need to have this watch by the 31st which hopefully will not be an issue. The problem is that I need to have it sized and it doesnt seem to have screws.

Now guys can you link me to a place where I can buy the exact tool that I will need in order to size the bracelet please? Also how easy/difficult is it to do so with the tool? Remember I have on other tools at my disposal other than a few screw drivers which I used to size my Rolex YM bracelet. Also it needs to be from a fast shipper because I need to get it soon.
 

madonna

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@maxse.

Are you in CONUS or Europa ? Choice of dealer can depend on this.

But what you need is a "link remover tool".

Birdman, Precious Times, Narika and several other of the local dealers have this.

Here is a link to the one I got from PT, http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1304

Has worked perfectly both on tough Omega PO pins, wife's J12, and many other.
 

Devedander

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You will also want a hammer to put the pins back in... the ones for this purpose are small and have a double head, with one side being some kind of hard plastic so as not to mark up your bracelet as you hit the pin the final few times.
 

maxse

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hmm I see. And where might I get such a hammer? I live in the US so I guess that is CONUS? Never wuite sure what that meant.