Gen PAM605 VS KW/V6F PAM605, finally ;-)

[Evora]

I'm sorry about the long wait, but I have so many work at the moment, I couldnt find the time (as well as weather for exterior shoot) before, but here it is, comparison between the gen PAM605 ans KW/V6F one.

- The KW strap is lighter than the gen.
- The KW dial is also lighter than gen.
- Dial seems thicker on the KW, you can see it on numerals cut pictures.
- Cut out (numerals & indexes) are rounded on the gen
- "PANERAI LUMINOR" & "FIRENZE" writtings are too bold on the KW, color is quite yellow (gen is a golden beige paint, not matching with dial lume), not as crisp as per gen.
- Xtal seems different. Thicker or higher, it gives a totally different distortion.
- Lume application on hands seems also too thick, not well centered on hands.
- Engraving on case are not as crisp as gen
- The case is really well finished.
- Nice lugs shape with quite correct screws holes
- Nice CG, as usually, the crown is not "shaved" as per gen, but well done.

Please, accept my appologies for some bad pictures quality, but I had to do these with my phone.

Gen is ont the left, it has darker strap.
As aid, the dial is darker on the gen, the sunburst effect is a little bit more pronounced on the gen, so the dial tint can vary a lot VS gen, depending of the light source.





Gen is on the right here



GEN



KW/V6F



GEN



V6F








As told, PANERAI, LUMINOR & FIRENZE words as not as crisp as gen. KW/V6F uses a yellow paint with a kind of gloss applied on it where gen has a gloden beige paint, not glossy.
You can also see that the dial is thicker on the KW/V6F. There is aslo some space (and shadow) between sandwich plates on the KW/V6F.

GEN



KW/V6F



GEN



KW/V6F



GEN
Lume is thicker on rep hands. Dial engraving are deeper and more crisp on gen. Yellow on KW/V6F vs golden beige gen engraving.



KW/V6F



Here you can clearly see the plexi distortion is totally different.
GEN



KW/V6F with a lot of distortion



Here again, GEN



Distorted KW/V6F plexi



Engraving on case is different, not as deep as gen, and gen engraving are rounded.
GEN



KW/V6F



The case is well shaped, as well as the CG. Crown teeth are not "shaved", or rounded as per gen.
GEN



KW/V6F



GEN



KW/V6F



GEN CG



KW/V6F CG



GEN CG



KW/V6F CG



Case back is correctly engraved, movement is totally wrong (position, writting...) but we know all that.




In summary, this PAM605 from KW/V6F is a nice watch (I prefer the grey tint of the rep strap), but not a good rep at all... Obvious flaws on dial, case engraving, CB, movement...


Hope this help (a bit late).

Evora

 

[gvln]

great review! thanx a lot Evora!

 

[TheDonSL]

Excellent review thank you!


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[panasol]

great work mate......thank you so much

your 605 is by far the best looking pam out there..

now , we are waiting for the Gen Vs ZF version review...

 

[shewie]

Shout out to Evora for this comparison, I was waiting more than 2 months for this comparison to come. Rep points added. Now we can ask someone for some outdoor pictures in similiar angles of ZF605 which seems to be more accurate than KW605.

 

[ericb196]

great work mate......thank you so much

your 605 is by far the best looking pam out there..

now , we are waiting for the Gen Vs ZF version review...

+1

 

[Luke Warm]

Excellent comparison. Thanks Evora. [emoji106]

Seems like KW did a great job on the case and got the rest wrong [emoji26]

 

[atespo]

Awesome review! Love the gen/rep reviews from members!
Ok, now I need one.

 

[maxnty]

Great review. Thanks

 

[kilowattore]

Great comparison Evora, thanks for taking the time to do it!

I totally agree on your observations, leaving aside the different color and sunburst effect which are pretty obvious when they're side by side, the base plate seems to be not perfectly sticked to the upper plate thus leaving gaps on the indices. Moreover in gen dial the inner walls of the cutouts are bevelled, perfectly painted and polished while they are quite rough on the rep.
LUMINOR PANERAI and FIRENZE engravings are too shallow and too yellow in the rep as you say, the color being a quite noticeable flaw.
Overall it does not look very good in comparison with the gen

The different plexi distortion in rep is imho due to the different shape of the top, the gen plexi is flatter and it also has better polished walls, you can almost see through them from the side view.

The overall case shape is amazing in rep, very well done. Lugs seem to be a bit fatter in rep, as you can see in the side view pics the rep lugs are touching the glass table were you put the watch, while the gen ones don't touch it.

Engravings between the lugs are a let down also. Rep factories have already shown they can do way better (for example think about the noob 372 or the SF 448).

Rep CG is pretty good although the inner cuts are not as well shaped as in gen and the crown teeth look quite rounder than gen. Lever tip is a bit different shape also.
Very good CG pin and REG. T.M. engravings, I would need to overlay the pics to see the differences

All in all Luke Warm above me said it best: they got the case right, but the rest is wrong. Still an acceptable rep, but far from gen imho.
ZF looks better from the pics I saw so far, but some clear real life and natural light pictures are needed to evaluate it.

 

[ciberalguien]

Great comparison Evora!

A lot of thanks for show us

And also thank you very much for your valuable input kilowattore as always

 

[chris3007]

Wow, thank you very much for your comparison!


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[coltsivers]

Thank you very much for the review.

What an amazing watch this (Gen) 605 ....

Yannic

 

[Haggy]

Great work! Thank you!

 

[MasterWatch]

Thank you for such a detailed comparison. Love your gen! Wear it well.

 

[Uberschall]

Excellent comparison, Evora! Thank you for taking the time to put it together!

Let's hope someone will post pics of a ZF 605 so that we can see how accurate it is.

Rep points added.

 

[ebzen02]

The zf seems closer to gen.. Dial is darker and thinner



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[Evora]

The overall case shape is amazing in rep, very well done. Lugs seem to be a bit fatter in rep, as you can see in the side view pics the rep lugs are touching the glass table were you put the watch, while the gen ones don't touch it.

Engravings between the lugs are a let down also. Rep factories have already shown they can do way better (for example think about the noob 372 or the SF 448).

Rep CG is pretty good although the inner cuts are not as well shaped as in gen and the crown teeth look quite rounder than gen. Lever tip is a bit different shape also.
Very good CG pin and REG. T.M. engravings, I would need to overlay the pics to see the differences

All in all Luke Warm above me said it best: they got the case right, but the rest is wrong. Still an acceptable rep, but far from gen imho.
ZF looks better from the pics I saw so far, but some clear real life and natural light pictures are needed to evaluate it.

Many thx for your kind words as well as your remarks.
Regarding the lugs aren't touching the glass, it's due to the gen strap which is more "padded" than the rep one.

The CG on mine is a bad exception, most of the CG from KW are nicer than mine. Inner cuts are really awfull on mine, I never saw such a horrible CG from KW/V6F. Lever tip shape is different, it's the same as PAM372 ae, but it's an easy fix to mod it.

The brushed effect on the CG is also too heavy on mine, I just check another CG from KW/V6F, it has softer brushed effect. Also easy to fix...

Actually, it should be done by factory... They were quite more aware about flaws a fews months/years ago... Today, they try to sell us more and more watches, but it seems that the quality is not as regular as before... And "huge" flaws could be easily fixed, but they launch a lot of watches with known flaws/issues...

Just have a look at the last upgraded watches from DSN, huge improvements, where "usual" makers offer some really shits that we couldn't accept even a few years ago.

 

[JMMC]

Many thanks for the review. And CONGRATULATIONS for owning the GEN !

Many thanks also to kiliwattore for its detailed analysis.

The review made me change my opinion regarding this rep in different aspects.
Some faults I consired important are not so important, and the oposite in other aspects..

i.e I did not figure out, before seeing this side by side pics, how off/different from gen is the color of dial inscriptions. Now that I know, that's a major tell, even more than dial color.

Borwsing PT web the different versions looks like the one with more accurate colors is neither the KW nor ZF, but the SF version, do you all agree?

Best Regards.

 

[shewie]

[MENTION=92821]JMMC[/MENTION] Show me the SF version, as I know ZF is best available so far.