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Gen or Rep? Tudor Pelagos LHD

robinstyler

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The fact that there was this much debate on a forum of professional nitpickers tells us that the reps are damn close (that's why I love these rep/gen threads). If I had bigger wrists I'd pick up a Pelagos in a heartbeat.
you really dont need big wrists for the black bay. Trust me,you will love it. It looks chunky, but not too fat for a small wrist

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robinstyler

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What, i haven't seen the movement being repped anywhere . . . Ryan, can you confirm these news ? @ryanwayer
I havent either but this guy just pisted a pic of a decorated tudor movement that doesnt look 1:1 to gen. So maybe they did rep it and havent introduced it yet

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I havent either but this guy just pisted a pic of a decorated tudor movement that doesnt look 1:1 to gen. So maybe they did rep it and havent introduced it yet

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Looking at our TD's site no Pelo has a clone of the in-house Tudor movement so . . . At least its not out yet. Lets see what Ryan says.
 

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I guessed rep as well but taken from the first set of pics where you cannot really see the dial text in detail and date sitting rather strange... second set of pics help to bring up the quality better, enjoy OP!
 

robinstyler

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Looking at our TD's site no Pelo has a clone of the in-house Tudor movement so . . . At least its not out yet. Lets see what Ryan says.
Do you think ryan will reply here? Would be really cool if he did know something.

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I say gen because of the lumes, they are not bumpy as the reps. EASY guess for me, really jumps to my eye. As soon as I saw the first picture I clicked GEN. You don't even need high resolution to see it.

The lumes/markers are muuuuuuuuuuuuch better on Gen that Rep.

That's exactly what prevents the LHD to be a super rep as I discussed it many times before.

Am I right ? Tell me I'm right... or I instantly pull the trigger and give it Super Rep status.
 

Omagad

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I say gen because of the lumes, they are not bumpy as the reps. EASY guess for me, really jumps to my eye. As soon as I saw the first picture I clicked GEN. You don't even need high resolution to see it.

The lumes/markers are muuuuuuuuuuuuch better on Gen that Rep.

That's exactly what prevents the LHD to be a super rep as I discussed it many times before.

Am I right ? Tell me I'm right... or I instantly pull the trigger and give it Super Rep status.

Oops, sorry, I didn't read the whole thread. Enjoy !

Really, people thinking it was Rep, are you mad ? Look at those markers, damn, I would love to have one watch like this. :applause:
 

IceBear454

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There's no lume like Pelagos lume!
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The LHD is gorgeous indeed.
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IceBear454

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Hi, yes. In both shots, the Gen is on the left. My V6F is on the right.
I had posted numerous photos in a thread a little while ago. All of those pictures got wiped out in the Photobucket purge. I'll see if I can find the time to post again.
This summer, I'd converted the Rep to the rubber strap. Really nice to have the great looking Rep watch head on comfy rubber for those dog days of summer. Also made it easier to tell them apart. :D
 

robinstyler

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Yes, they are damn close. But lame of gen is another world haha. Would be really great if you could repost the pics in a new thread!
 

IceBear454

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You know what. If you like, tell me what compare shots you want and I'll take them for you. I'll do the best I can as I don't have a macro lens. But I gotta say, even though the lume on the Rep sucks compared to Gen, it is exceedingly hard to tell one from the other even during a serious casual lookover. The weight, feel, and finish are very, very similar.
 

robinstyler

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I would love to see a nice shot where you can compare the squares on the dial as there is some discussion about the lume placement on rep and gen since it looks puffy on the rep. And also the crown guards, I read somewhere here that the crown guards are wrong on the rep.
 

IceBear454

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Okay, yes, the lume fill controversy. Let me let you in on the secret...

Both Rep and Gen vary in the puffiness of the fill from marker to marker! That's right. Unlike almost any other watch I own (about 15, mostly divers but a few fliegers, too, from $500-$5,000, mediocre lume to killer lume) the LHD is absolutely unique in that the lume is filled to near overflow and it's bare. There appears to be no lacquer or cover over the lume. It's like the watchmaker just pumped lume paste in until it was about to spill and then stopped. Of course, it's actually neater than I make it sound but the effect is for sure.

The upshot is that depending on which marker you are looking at on the Gen, the Rep markers could look a little flatter or a little puffier, relative to it. On my Gen, the difference is most obvious between the markers at 7 and 8. I will post this shot. So, my advice is to disregard lume fill as a tell because it's variable and unreliable. Rather, there is a more reliable detail that you can just about make out in the above side-by-side shot. Look at the lume markers again, their shape, and see if you can tell what it is. It is very clear and once seen, cannot be unseen.
 

IceBear454

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Here's the key photo. Look at the 7/8 markers and also the 6/9 markers.
What's the takeaway from this exercise? That you given sufficient magnification and the right angle of lighting, you can find differences...but these differences only have meaning at this intense level of scrutiny.

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BTW, some may ask, and it's fine if they do. This watch was purchased from a Tudor AD so authenticity is not in question.
 

robinstyler

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Okay, yes, the lume fill controversy. Let me let you in on the secret...

Both Rep and Gen vary in the puffiness of the fill from marker to marker! That's right. Unlike almost any other watch I own (about 15, mostly divers but a few fliegers, too, from $500-$5,000, mediocre lume to killer lume) the LHD is absolutely unique in that the lume is filled to near overflow and it's bare. There appears to be no lacquer or cover over the lume. It's like the watchmaker just pumped lume paste in until it was about to spill and then stopped. Of course, it's actually neater than I make it sound but the effect is for sure.

The upshot is that depending on which marker you are looking at on the Gen, the Rep markers could look a little flatter or a little puffier, relative to it. On my Gen, the difference is most obvious between the markers at 7 and 8. I will post this shot. So, my advice is to disregard lume fill as a tell because it's variable and unreliable. Rather, there is a more reliable detail that you can just about make out in the above side-by-side shot. Look at the lume markers again, their shape, and see if you can tell what it is. It is very clear and once seen, cannot be unseen.
I think I saw it before already what you are talking about. The rep markers are much more sure whereas the gen ones are more rounded?
 

IceBear454

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Here's a closeup taken with my Nikon dSLR. Converted to grayscale to allow focus on details.
Do you see it now?
Robinstyler sees it.

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