I hope you go onto Repgeek and let miocrow know you are interested on the AP forum. Price will be $1K ish but it will be the best ROO rep made by far, but he needs enough interested people so save up and lets hope this happens.
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For anyone who wants a near perfect ROO rep...
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If you want pics just go to the AP website - thats how close it will be when it is built! No seriously it will have a gen movement maybe gen dial and no date window problem - if it gets done this is the rep ROO holy grail.
Not to be a party pooper....but there are way too many variables for it to go wrong
no rep factory will be making a couple of cases for this....you'll need at least 500 of not a 1000 cases ordered before a factory will make these
....how will you find a 1000 or 500 suitable movements for this project????......and even then you'll need proper dials, hands, tachyrings, movement holders etc.......
no rep factory will be making a couple of cases for this....you'll need at least 500 of not a 1000 cases ordered before a factory will make these
....how will you find a 1000 or 500 suitable movements for this project????......and even then you'll need proper dials, hands, tachyrings, movement holders etc.......
They're not talking about rep factories. With the right persons in the right place a lot is possible.
I'm afraid gen dials won't be possible. Gen ones can be had new at some sources, but they are expensive. Don't know if you would be able to buy 10 at one time though 
. Right now there are some nice dials for sale on the bay. For example a safari!
. Right now there are some nice dials for sale on the bay. For example a safari! Miocrow on RG has only said maybe gen dials - might not be possible - but a gen movement with correct date window is definetly on. Best to PM him for more deets.
And he's planning on making all the ROO models except the limited.
And he's planning on making all the ROO models except the limited.
HA! 10 bucks this is as far as this project will go. I like the optimism of some people but I can bet my left nut this is not going to happen unless the factories make it. I'm not really going to spend $1k+ for a watch made by people who have no experience in watch manufacturing whatsoever. Good luck though
Sorry to pour cold water on this too but you can't put a gen movement and correct date window and use a rep dial as the rep dial date window is too far to the right
These kinds of projects are always very appealing.... untill you add up all costs. After you do, you realize the total for each piece is going to be crazy expensive. And you're not even in position to make money yet.
And including a profit marging is very important when working on reps. Because some parts are of so crappy quality that whatever you do, you'll inevitably break/damage one out of every XX.
That's especially true for hands. And the more hands there are on the watch, the more risks there are that a tube breaks or something (looooots of hands on an AP chrono).
About the gen movement, even if you can get your hands on some overstock from a smaller brand or from a repair centers, and imagining they're willing to sell you the movements at cost, you'll still end up paying 400-500 euros each (normal price being closer to 800 euros). Gen dials often go for +600 euros, but let's say you're a lucky guy and you can find one for 200-300 euros. If you add up the cost of the original rep, plus 15-20% for various fees and profit marging, we're closer to the 1200-1500 euros line ($1800-2300).
This raise several questions:
- How many people are ready to pay around $2000 for an AP ROO that after all is still a replica?
- Is it worst bothering to make less than $200 of profit a piece?
And of course this is only theorical. We all know it's going to cost more. It's like when you're working on your house....
And including a profit marging is very important when working on reps. Because some parts are of so crappy quality that whatever you do, you'll inevitably break/damage one out of every XX.
That's especially true for hands. And the more hands there are on the watch, the more risks there are that a tube breaks or something (looooots of hands on an AP chrono).
About the gen movement, even if you can get your hands on some overstock from a smaller brand or from a repair centers, and imagining they're willing to sell you the movements at cost, you'll still end up paying 400-500 euros each (normal price being closer to 800 euros). Gen dials often go for +600 euros, but let's say you're a lucky guy and you can find one for 200-300 euros. If you add up the cost of the original rep, plus 15-20% for various fees and profit marging, we're closer to the 1200-1500 euros line ($1800-2300).
This raise several questions:
- How many people are ready to pay around $2000 for an AP ROO that after all is still a replica?
- Is it worst bothering to make less than $200 of profit a piece?
And of course this is only theorical. We all know it's going to cost more. It's like when you're working on your house....
Agree with you guys, it´s probably never going to be anything except an excellent idea or just a few damn nice but silly expensive reps.
Just look at loosetimes hardcore mod of a APROO and I would say I wouldn´t go through all the work he did with some pretty heavyduty hardware to finalize that rep charging anything less then 1000usd just for the work involved...
Link: http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=132014
So if you take into account that he got a regular rep, dp module, new MVT and a gen dial and more then a few hours of work behind his drilling machines that rep would probably cost you 2000usd easily when done and that is if your lucky...
But IF they ever manage to pull it off it would be a truly awesome rep for a silly cheap price, so my guess is that it will land somewhere nearer 15-2000usd when done, but will most certainly keep an eye on that thread
Cheers,
Jiddy
Just look at loosetimes hardcore mod of a APROO and I would say I wouldn´t go through all the work he did with some pretty heavyduty hardware to finalize that rep charging anything less then 1000usd just for the work involved...
Link: http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=132014
So if you take into account that he got a regular rep, dp module, new MVT and a gen dial and more then a few hours of work behind his drilling machines that rep would probably cost you 2000usd easily when done and that is if your lucky...
But IF they ever manage to pull it off it would be a truly awesome rep for a silly cheap price, so my guess is that it will land somewhere nearer 15-2000usd when done, but will most certainly keep an eye on that thread
Cheers,
Jiddy
I agree with you guys on these facts:
Costs will be much higher
Sourcing dials is (too) difficult
Also if he would produce his own cases how close will they be? You need perfect CAD files for this.
Producing every dial but no LE's is stupid, just start with 1 dial and see how it works out.
Anyhow, it would be great IF this works out.
If you know where to look, a gen movt. can be had at $300. EBay for example...
Costs will be much higher
Sourcing dials is (too) difficult
Also if he would produce his own cases how close will they be? You need perfect CAD files for this.
Producing every dial but no LE's is stupid, just start with 1 dial and see how it works out.
Anyhow, it would be great IF this works out.
If you know where to look, a gen movt. can be had at $300
. EBay for example... 
I have a Breitling SA that's about as GEN as you can get. Breitling parts are a lot cheaper, and more readily available , and you would still have a hard time doing this project for the price mentioned. I just don't see how that's possible. Those of us with Super Frankens can tell you what the real cost ends up being.
Mmm... is it really worth it being the price of say, 5 regular reps when the differences are so minimal?