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Thanks. It's a Spinmaster. Chronos work and it resets PERFECTLY. And best of all, I don't worry about it like I would if it ran a standard A7750 movement.phillycheez said:
I've added 4 or 5 more watches to my collection since I last updated my collection thread. I need to do that soon.
Glad you're here, Spirit. Please go back and correct the countless mistakes I've undoubtedly made in my responses. :lol:Spirit said:
levelmanroger said:
after reading spinmasters sales thread, why buy the gen vintage??? for his astounding service and build i dont see why you would. i guess of course if its your grail watch...
phillycheez said:
Sorry, I was watching Simpsons on streaming and I think I´ve gone thru alot of episodes and didn´t even notice...lol Having no commercials is addictive.. :lol:
@ levelmanroger:
lol! You´re doing just fine, mate. Maybe I could watch one or two more Simpsons episodes white you take the pace? lol
I need to read everything on the topic yet tho..I just saw the OP wants a Daytona or Day-Date in full gold cause he thinks there´s too much SS on his collection..
...worry not! there´s salvation on the BLING! lol he just needs to keep in mind that these aren´t daily beater watches, but more like special occasion ones..
I´m gonna read it quickly now
Cheers,
Spirit.
I'm a huge Simpson's fan myslef, Spirit! "Mmmmmmmm. Floor Pie." :lol:Spirit said:phillycheez said:
Sorry, I was watching Simpsons on streaming and I think I´ve gone thru alot of episodes and didn´t even notice...lol Having no commercials is addictive.. :lol:
@ levelmanroger:
lol! You´re doing just fine, mate. Maybe I could watch one or two more Simpsons episodes white you take the pace? lol
I need to read everything on the topic yet tho..I just saw the OP wants a Daytona or Day-Date in full gold cause he thinks there´s too much SS on his collection..
...worry not! there´s salvation on the BLING! lol he just needs to keep in mind that these aren´t daily beater watches, but more like special occasion ones..
I´m gonna read it quickly now
Cheers,
Spirit.
P.S. - either the OP is of the female persuasion, or science made tremendous stides while you and I were watching The Simpsons. :wink:
And appearantly he/she is pregnant so for God's sake, just agree with whatever she says!!! :roll:
Now I´ve read at least most of the thread and got my eyes on all the relevant points...and I should say that Philly and Levelman are pretty much heading you the right way. I wouldn´t do any better than them
...But if you allow me to, I´d like to give some of my thoughts about the gold plated watches - even if most of them were already covered by our 2 fellas there.
- Yeah, a gold watch isn´t a everyday beater, and it´s better to keep it for some special occasions, but if you absolutely have to do. Use it carefully. Although the plating is better than alot of ppl can think of, it still can show some unusual wearing due to chemicals and stuff, even more than if it was banged/dinged against anything.
- Perfums is one reason, it´s an advice to not wear perfums on the wrist when wearing a gold plated watch, ´cause the reaction of it + skin oils could wear quickly the gold. So, even if you take that advice. Be sure to wash your watch after each time you use it, dry it with a soft towel and take it to the box again.
I´ve had plated watches for years now, and one of them has like 15 ~ 16yo, and was a daily beater, it´s worn now, speacially on 2 spots of the bracelet and the edges of the case. But I´ve also had a watch for a year that I almost didn´t wear, and it did show a strange spot of wear on the case, dunno by what it was caused.
About the Daytonas, it´s really a matter of personal taste, and WHERE the person want to sacrifice the accuracy.
...the Vintage ones are the best for accuracy, but also the most expensive ones (Spinmaster´s are the best vintage hands down, but go for US$600 and around).
The A7750 ones are accurate on "functionability", since they have working chronos and etc, but also, they´re the less reliable when talking to movement´s life.
Also, the A7750 isn´t shaped accurately with its GEN counterpart, since the A7750 needs a bigger casing to acomodate itself, and due to that, the case of these Daytonas are thicker than the GEN Daytonas. So, it´s sacrificing the look of the case to get the look of the chronos.
The a21j, is in my humble opinion, the best choice for the bucks, IF you don´t mind the non-working chronos.
...They might have faux chronos, but the case is thinner and really more accurate to the GEN, and they also are work-horses talking about how reliable they are.. So, if you get a problematic one, it shouldn´t run for more than 2 days and you could return it to the dealer, no fuss needed.
But also, there are more than one a21j models of daytonas around (I know at least 4 models) and all of them differ in details like bracelet, finish, and even plating (not to mention dial, function and etc..) So I´d advise you to look what are you getting and ask for pics before shipment.
The Day-Date, it´s pretty easier to get the one you´re looking for (it´s my grail watch too, and definitely the one I like the most.) But if you´re looking for a pre-2000 model, having a gold rose clasp would be a must for the full yellow gold DD, since it was a feature of the GEN.
Ruby can indeed make whatever you want when talking about Datejusts or Day-Dates, but dunno how she works about Daytonas.
...It entirely depends on how much you want to spend, how much anal you are about details and about WHICH details too (since some of them you will have to live with, depending on which model or movement you choose)...and so goes on
Well, I must have missed something, but our fellas surely have covered that before, or most likely will cover after all
Cheers,
Spirit.
levelmanroger said:
lol! I haven´t found out the OP was "she" until I´ve re-read all the posts here...
I guess that Simpsons of ours took more time than the needed to find the details of this thread, Level! haha
Anyway, lemme just fire up the "yes ma´am" button here just in case! :lol:
Cheers,
Spirit.
If I get gold I go with TT. That way the wear points are SS. It lasts and looks nice a lot longer.
Guys u don't have to do the yes maam or agree with whatever just cos I'm preggie.... Actually I really appreciate honest opinions.... Since ultimately I'm parting with my cash!
I like mens watches as opposed to womens cos I like the chunkier look of them... I love the presidential and also daytona cos I can wear them in the day.....
You guys have opened alot of other doors that I hadn't thought of... I don't believe I know what the vintage rolex looked like... If anyone has a spinny please post I would love to so ur masterpiece. Also u mention they r 600$+ why so????? Just curious as to what rises up the price so high.
Everytime I think I found my treasure... Someone gives me a whole new map.. But I love it
on my shopping list this month are:
dd presidential fluted beZel champagne face stick dial
hbb ss black bezel
hbb rg diamond bezel on black.
I like mens watches as opposed to womens cos I like the chunkier look of them... I love the presidential and also daytona cos I can wear them in the day.....
You guys have opened alot of other doors that I hadn't thought of... I don't believe I know what the vintage rolex looked like... If anyone has a spinny please post I would love to so ur masterpiece. Also u mention they r 600$+ why so????? Just curious as to what rises up the price so high.
Everytime I think I found my treasure... Someone gives me a whole new map.. But I love it
on my shopping list this month are:
dd presidential fluted beZel champagne face stick dial
hbb ss black bezel
hbb rg diamond bezel on black.
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fakemaster said:
Wot 'e said. As usual the master of fakery is right. A two tone gives you a bit of gold with stainless steel where the wear will occur. Best bet for everyday wear.Here is an example from Hont:
My personal favorite TT is the blue dial Sub:
Vintage Rolex? For me my favorite is the white dial Daytona:
But maybe a vintage sea dweller is more your style:
However I'd be thinking Yachtmaster. The ultimate mens rolex for ladys.
Spinmaster's stuff is expensive 'cause he performs a lot of modifcations to get them as close to the gen as possible.
Col.
pays said:
Level showed his collection and the spin vintage daytona is in the middle. it is $600 because its made by one man called spinmaster. He does certain mods to make it look more like the gen, mods to make it function like the gen, and mods to make it extremely RELIABLE compared to what you can get from the factory.
Your in the end receiving a watch that is built from scratch and you can guarantee its the best you can possibly get. It looks like its his specialty.
I think you can understand the logic behind the high price if you can understand the cost to factories who mass produce and one person who builds them from scratch.
Here are picture's of spinmasters vintage.
Heres the gen
looks dead on.
levelmanroger said:
just got this message from ruby
"The band is full plated. However, the plate is not very good between two links. you know, it is not plated link by link".
Then I'd shy away from the all-gold. I think you would love it... for a while.pays said:
phillycheez said:Heres the gen
looks dead on.
Looks EXACTLY like mine. Which looks EXACTLY like all the vintage gens I could find for sale on the net.
Spinmaster is expensive (unless you factor in the cost of buying the watch from a dealer and doing or having done all the mods), but his watches are nearly (note I said "nearly") flawless and reliable.
I Agree! My YM is missing quite often ever since my girlfriend discovered it. And despite very dainty wrists, she loves nothing more than my Breitling Super Ocean Steel Fish, which has been permanently re-sized for her! :lol:trailboss99 said:However I'd be thinking Yachtmaster. The ultimate mens rolex for ladys.
Col.
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Spin ain't THAT expensive. You see that 'tona in my post above the YM? That's a six grand watch! Of cause it does have a gen MVT.
They all love the YM. A long time friend of mine recently asked about "a nice watch". Now, she's an outdoorsy type so a sports/tool watch was allways gunna be the go. She took one look at those pics hk45ca posted in the raffle thread and is now saving for a used gen! In the meen time there is a rep (noobfactory 21J) on it's way to her door as we speak. Ahhh, the power of shiny things . . .
Col.
They all love the YM. A long time friend of mine recently asked about "a nice watch". Now, she's an outdoorsy type so a sports/tool watch was allways gunna be the go. She took one look at those pics hk45ca posted in the raffle thread and is now saving for a used gen! In the meen time there is a rep (noobfactory 21J) on it's way to her door as we speak. Ahhh, the power of shiny things . . .
Col.
which of the trusted dealers have these a21j Daytonas with faux chronos?
which version is 'visually' closest to the gen and which dealer has this?
which version is 'visually' closest to the gen and which dealer has this?
Spirit said:
Well my personal take on these is that TT looks real good on rolex, I think full gold looks tacky even if it is gen. Just my opinion though. Also I've been in this hobby long enough to kind of lack appreciation for daytonas and submariners so those wouldn't be choice for me. I've seen plenty of people near the cities here and on public transportation wearing those as well as kitchen jobs so they aren't too appealing to me. I would go with a datejust TT, I actually own one TT datejust TOG it is really nice with the light silver dial. As far as the gold wearing, I've heard that the gold wears down on the midlinks on the submariner TT so I'd assume it does on any watch really but I've seen genuine Seiko gold plated watches that are over 10 years old where the gold tends to wear on the outside of the watch rather than on the inner parts and those watches still look fine anyway and I hear Seiko possibly uses a thicker gold plating than replicas typically do.
When I see rolex out in public I rarely jump to the conclusion that a non-sport watch is a fake. I usually would want to examine it more before coming to that conclusion. But these daytona, yachtmaster, and especially black submariner well those are kind of a dime a dozen on all of these boards so it doesn't take a lot of thought. I think the big deal about the black submariner for a replica collector is that it is the style and dial color he really wants to purchase and pretty much disregards the rest of the trivial thoughts behind the watch and buys it. Personally I have no need because I already own a seiko skx031 and it is a similar design plus nobody asks if it is real or not when I wear it.
When I see rolex out in public I rarely jump to the conclusion that a non-sport watch is a fake. I usually would want to examine it more before coming to that conclusion. But these daytona, yachtmaster, and especially black submariner well those are kind of a dime a dozen on all of these boards so it doesn't take a lot of thought. I think the big deal about the black submariner for a replica collector is that it is the style and dial color he really wants to purchase and pretty much disregards the rest of the trivial thoughts behind the watch and buys it. Personally I have no need because I already own a seiko skx031 and it is a similar design plus nobody asks if it is real or not when I wear it.