FM Vanguard V45 Tourbillon Skeleton

[peterpl]

So no one knows when this is to officially release with our TDs?

 

[roadtofreedom]

I'm eager to see a SS version

 

[XLR8R]

I'm eager to see a SS version

Well same but none of our TDs listed it which this watch still makes me curious.I'm just thinking about when this watch comes to our TDs im interested to blacking out counter-weight balance wheel maybe one of the trusted watchsmiths can do it which it would be sick atleast from my own behalf.

 

[BIONONE]

NEWS

They actually managed to black out the Balance wheel of the tourbillon and it looks magnificent for a rep!

I have so much hope that a factory will use this same movement for a RM27-02 rep... The base movement is perfect and also are the positions of Tourbillon and mainspring...

mention TS is NOT A TD here at RWI!

https://www.ts-station.cn/goods.php?ProId=25898

 

[XLR8R]

NEWS
They actually managed to black out the Balance wheel of the tourbillon and it looks magnificent for a rep!
I have so much hope that a factory will use this same movement for a RM27-02 rep... The base movement is perfect and also are the positions of Tourbillon and mainspring...
mention TS is NOT A TD here at RWI!
https://www.ts-station.cn/goods.php?ProId=25898

I'm not sure about thickness they claim it is 14mm but it is a sick looking watch and when there is more listings on TDs and reviews from the members of this awesome forum i would give it a shot.

PS: Thank you BIONONE for the news you are awesome as always.

Edit:Aa we can see from he photos this watch is different from 's Watch.

Bridge Colors should be metallic gray / black when we compare this watch to the his watch and the genuine sample from the first post.
Carbon Pattern looks not same? Not sure about that one.
Can't say nothing about the thickness but they look same to me.
Movement looks similar to me can't say nothing more about it because of the lack of vision at my right eye.
Anyways it is a solid watch but can't say nothing about it and if i wasted anyones time sorry about that.

 

[dadog13]

Looks good..
Maybe it is time to upgrade mine

 

[XLR8R]

Looks good..
Maybe it is time to upgrade mine

It does look good but still not sure about bridge colors.

 

[BIONONE]

I have to say - in all honesty - i don't really care about the watch itself or its approach to match the genuine counterpart.

BUT i appreciate the refinement of the tourbillon and that raises hope for future releases as i already mentioned.

dadog13
(and i have not checked if it is the same watch/maker that this thread is about - sorry if it is not the case and i kind of cross posted your thread...)

 

[Spooky01]

TS has just listed a very nice looking V45.

Check it out: https://www.ts-station.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=25900


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[NotSoHonestAbe]

Eagerly awaiting TD postings

 

[roadtofreedom]

NEWS

They actually managed to black out the Balance wheel of the tourbillon and it looks magnificent for a rep!

I have so much hope that a factory will use this same movement for a RM27-02 rep... The base movement is perfect and also are the positions of Tourbillon and mainspring...

mention TS is NOT A TD here at RWI!

https://www.ts-station.cn/goods.php?ProId=25898

This rep with SS bridges and case would be stunning

 

[peterpl]

That looks sick. Has anyone actually bought this yet? If its listed on TS I'm sure all the other TDs can get it right?

 

[roadtofreedom]

That looks sick. Has anyone actually bought this yet? If its listed on TS I'm sure all the other TDs can get it right?

Is it tourbillon or carrusel?

 

[BIONONE]

Is it tourbillon or carrusel?

tourbillon with a custom cage - you don't see that often in the rep world...

 

[NotSoHonestAbe]

The watch listed on TSStation appears to have stainless steel interior components/bridges. The problem I have is that I cannot find a reference from Franck Muller about all the configurations that they make the Vanguard Skeleton Tourbillon in. I wouldn't buy this watch if it turns out that Franck Muller doesn't even make a genuine Vanguard Skeleton Tourbillon with a carbon case and stainless steel bridges. I have even talked a bit with the "brand ambassador" for Franck Muller at my local Genuine and he told me that even he can't really get an updated catalogue. Seems that FM is really not on top of their own marketing

 

[Spooky01]

The watch listed on TSStation appears to have stainless steel interior components/bridges. The problem I have is that I cannot find a reference from Franck Muller about all the configurations that they make the Vanguard Skeleton Tourbillon in. I wouldn't buy this watch if it turns out that Franck Muller doesn't even make a genuine Vanguard Skeleton Tourbillon with a carbon case and stainless steel bridges. I have even talked a bit with the "brand ambassador" for Franck Muller at my local Genuine and he told me that even he can't really get an updated catalogue. Seems that FM is really not on top of their own marketing

Are you referring to this one:

Or this one:

The first one looks particularly interesting but is not listed on any TD's (yet).


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[NotSoHonestAbe]

Are you referring to this one:

Or this one:

The first one looks particularly interesting but is not listed on any TD's (yet).


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I am referring mainly to the second one. Note the difference in the balance wheel within the tourbillon. The first version of the rep that was posted has a standard yellow gold balance wheel but the second watch posted appears to have a gen-like balance wheel in a black color. My main concern is that even on the Franck Muller website I cannot find any images of whatever versions of the genuine "Vanguard Skeleton Tourbillon" model that we are getting so hyped up about the replication of. https://www.franckmuller.com/vanguard even under the "skeleton" collection seems to only display the 7-day PR non-tourbillon model.

Another one of my concerns as you can see here is that they display 4 different models, the Rose Gold, the Stainless Steel (Or possibly white gold), the black PVD, and the Carbon Case. And since the Carbon case model obviously does not have stainless steel internal components and has blacked-out PVD internal components then it is likely that with, in terms of this mystery Vanguard Skeleton Tourbillon model, that FM does not make a Carbon-case model with stainless steel bridges/interior components.

Ultimately, both of the replicas that have been posted here so far are likely to each have major flaws - the first has a balance wheel that is YG instead of PVD but has what is likely the correct colored movements bridges, and the second has those stainless steel interior components which might be a major flaw, and unfortunately that second model also has the blacked out balance wheel.

I have been trying to research online references of the genuine model but have come up short of the info I am looking for.
https://www.franckmuller.com/news/the-new-vanguard-skeleton-tourbillon


Rose Gold model with Rose Gold bridges

Carbon model with blacked out bridges

Sapphire Model with whited out bridges (and whited out balance wheel?)

Carbon Case model with blacked out bridges and some color

 

[NotSoHonestAbe]

This was just posted by the FM IG page as well

 

[ApOffshore]

I think that the can use this movement to create an amazing rm12-01 tourbillon

take a look

 

[theflyingdutchman]

Sooth?