"Floating M" Thoughts - Gen vs. Rep

[Cooter Dip]

Hi all - I'm new to the rep community, but have done, what I feel like, is a considerable amount of research and learning. RWI has been a great tool, and I'm super appreciative of all the knowledge stored here.

At some point, I saw mention of a "floating m." I conducted my own research, and it sounds like the floating m is considered a rep flaw. With that said, I've seen several watches being sold as genuine with card/papers (primarily on Moda Watch Club) that have the floating m. I've noticed that it's primarily the 114060 no-date, and some have a floating m while others don't.

My question / topic of discussion is this: If even gen's have a floating m, is it your opinion that this is truly a flaw? I can't see a world where something is a flaw if it's possible for a gen to also have it, similar to slight rehaut misalignment.

I've attached a few pics of 114060's advertised as gen for your viewing pleasure.

Curious to hear thoughts and hope you guys see this worthy of conversation.

 

[Cooter Dip]

vs. two pics of 14060's that have a more attached m.

 

[Feefo]

Floating Ms, flying Es, drowning Sssss....
OCD stuff. I don't care, this happens gen, too, as you pointed out, sometimes it's just for the sake of discussion speculating over a 10x zoomed in image. Does that make sense? No, my eyesight isn't that good anyway...

 

[P..DR..D]

How about the 'catfish clasp'.

Have seen some strange levels of OCD & each to their own, but reading that wasted 10 mins of my life I won't get back

 

[Feefo]

How about the 'catfish clasp'.

Have seen some strange levels of OCD & each to their own, but reading that wasted 10 mins of my life I won't get back

Oh I missed that! Sounds entertaining

 

[Cooter Dip]

Floating Ms, flying Es, drowning Sssss....
OCD stuff. I don't care, this happens gen, too, as you pointed out, sometimes it's just for the sake of discussion speculating over a 10x zoomed in image. Does that make sense? No, my eyesight isn't that good anyway...

Makes complete sense, and I agree. I find it funny that anyone would complain about something so small when paying 1/20th of the price, especially considering it's found in some gens.

How about the 'catfish clasp'.

Have seen some strange levels of OCD & each to their own, but reading that wasted 10 mins of my life I won't get back

It took you ten minutes to read that - how much whiskey have you drank, sir?!

 

[Cooter Dip]

Also.. @P..DR..D - haven't heard of the "catfish clasp," do I even want to go down that rabbit hole? Lol

 

[P..DR..D]

Half of the the time reading it (VSF main thread iirc) was spent thinking what the actual F is going on & the world has gone mad (insert drink after drink) then angrily typing, editing and ultimately deleting messages on my phone lest I be banned.

My motto, unashamedly, is if ya can't see it, it can't annoy ya and sometimes, like it or not, agree or disagree, ignorance is bliss.

Some people see these things, that's their thing, some people don't

 

[Feefo]

Half of the the time reading it (VSF main thread iirc) was spent thinking what the actual F is going on & the world has gone mad (insert drink after drink) then angrily typing, editing and ultimately deleting messages on my phone lest I be banned.

My motto, unashamedly, is if ya can't see it, it can't annoy ya and sometimes, like it or not, agree or disagree, ignorance is bliss.

Some people see these things, that's their thing, some people don't

 

[Cooter Dip]

Half of the the time reading it (VSF main thread iirc) was spent thinking what the actual F is going on & the world has gone mad (insert drink after drink) then angrily typing, editing and ultimately deleting messages on my phone lest I be banned.

My motto, unashamedly, is if ya can't see it, it can't annoy ya and sometimes, like it or not, agree or disagree, ignorance is bliss.

Some people see these things, that's their thing, some people don't

LOL, I love it.. too funny. Wouldn't that be a sight: "P..DR..D bans himself after slamming keyboard and threatening members over floating m and catfish clasp scrutiny."

I'm with you, though. For ~$500, what VSF, CF, etc. are able to do with reps is absolutely incredible.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Yup, there are a fair few dial variations within the 11 series ceramic, even beyond the examples you've listed.

I'm sure within your research you've already seen the article on Millenery watches that shows these: Here

Edit: there is even a change to the rehaut engravings in older vs newer versions. Think the process went from engraving to etching c2016.

 

[Cooter Dip]

Yup, there are a fair few dial variations within the 11 series ceramic, even beyond the examples you've listed.

I'm sure within your research you've already seen the article on Millenery watches that shows these: Here

Edit: there is even a change to the rehaut engravings in older vs newer versions. Think the process went from engraving to etching c2016.

I actually had not seen/found that article. Thanks for sharing, I really enjoyed reading. Despite looking into this in depth, I wasn't aware of a lot of what was shared.

 

[PRS]

Yup, there are a fair few dial variations within the 11 series ceramic, even beyond the examples you've listed.

I'm sure within your research you've already seen the article on Millenery watches that shows these: Here

Edit: there is even a change to the rehaut engravings in older vs newer versions. Think the process went from engraving to etching c2016.

Thank you for the reference/article.

 

[muiramas]

For every eagle eyed and accurate observation posted on RWI by astute members there are 7 inaccurate and random observations posted by complete dipshits. The floating ‘m’ and catfish mouth are 2 examples of the latter.

On Reddit the ratio is 1 accurate observation to 89 random ones.

 

[cyprusdaedalus]

Fwiw the OP's posts don't show the actual floating M people are referring to. The floating m on the modern VSF/CF sub's is that the m floats vertically vs the rest of the writing alignment. Current 114/124 Gen Subs the m is aligned down on the same red line as the rest of the text.



The examples you posted from Moda are older Subs where the M is offset and those are Gen.

 

[Cooter Dip]

For every eagle eyed and accurate observation posted on RWI by astute members there are 7 inaccurate and random observations posted by complete dipshits. The floating ‘m’ and catfish mouth are 2 examples of the latter.

On Reddit the ratio is 1 accurate observation to 89 random ones.

Albeit a little spicy for an easy going replica watch forum thread, I deserved that one.