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first pistol VP9 or PPQ?
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Two very similar handguns in just about every aspect. I was in the same boat. Long story short- PPQ M1 (classic) fit my hand better than the M2 model, better trigger reset, was more accurate (for me) and easier to field strip and clean. VP9 has a little better take up, slightly better finish (more metal parts) and aftermarket accessories. I went with my gut- the Walther PPQ M1 in 9mm. I did add the Trijicon HD metal night sights in orange, they are outstanding.
Try to get your hands on both, I think one will speak to you. Can't go wrong with either choice. Good luck and be safe. Also, take a look on Youtube. There are a bunch of comparison videos on both of these handguns.
Try to get your hands on both, I think one will speak to you. Can't go wrong with either choice. Good luck and be safe. Also, take a look on Youtube. There are a bunch of comparison videos on both of these handguns.
Sometimes that "feel in your hands" fool you. They all shoot differently. I have never tried either ones you mentioned but all 3 of my 9mm shoot differently. See if someone you know owns one of those and let's you shoot them first. If I were to pick one without shooting I would go with PPq.
I think it depends on your intended use for the weapon. Do you want stopping power, ease of concealment (with the proper license of course), or accuracy? My most accurate 9mm is a CZ75 Compact -- beats everything else, with a Sig being a moderately close second. For concealing, the HK you reference feels a bit thinner. The Beretta Cheetah is also a great choice. But if it's stopping power, either get hollow points or a .45. The 9mm is a pea shooter when it counts.
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Cz75 is badass. Nothing comes close when you are shooting it. No recoil compared to my sw mp 9. Cz is gonna be my next gun.
really just something to take to the range and for home defense. I have an AR15 but its not as practical
Then choose the one that fits your hand best. Try closing both eyes and level the gun-then check sights and take the one that you can point and level instinctively.
Walter for me, feels great and lots of accessories and a nice price too!
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I've shot both and previously owned the PPQ. The HK was an instant fit after a couple of grip combos and just felt right. The PPQ took me a bit longer to get used to but the great (stock) trigger was right up my alley. I ended up having the trigger worked, lowering the pull from what was an already light feeling trigger down to just under 4 lb and to eliminate pre travel, much more suited to my type of shooting. I found the PPQ to be a little snappy, but many 9's are, more lift less push. In the end I ended up trading the PPQ toward a STI Tactical SS. If I had to do it over, I would again go with the PPQ.
You have to get both of these in hand as they are very similar...
You have to get both of these in hand as they are very similar...
I lost my train of thought while writing my last post and didn't touch on the original point I was going to make. You mentioned this was your first handgun. For a first handgun purchase, I wouldn't recommend either of the two you mentioned. I find a lot of people buy their first HG based on A) looks or B) some well written article or forum post touting the merits of a particular model. It is critical with your first purchase that you get your hands on a variety of HG's to really hone in on what suits you, not just what looks cool or that someone else said was great (not saying that either is your motivation). When I say hands on, you have to get actual range time with the models that interest you after you hone in on specifics that suit you while handling at the counter. If you don't have a local range that has a rental available of a particular model you are interested in, post a listing on Armslist and offer a free round of shooting to someone with that model or post a BB message at your local range. I have had success with this numerous times.
All that said, I put an average of 500-1000 rounds, depending on time of year, down range each week. I have shot many different handguns, in just about every caliber ever produced. I can tell you first hand that what I gravitated towards many moons ago is not the type of HG I shoot today. Granted, I own many but the fact remains that my motivations drastically changed as I gained experience with various different models.
The 9mm's I would look into as a new buyer and have recommended to new purchasers, in no particular order, would be the Sig P226, the FN FNX-9, the Walther P99 and the Beretta 92FS. The Beretta is uber reliable, feels good in hand and builds confidence at the range. The P99 has one of the best stock triggers out there and the ergonomics are excellent. The FN is an underdog but offers similar features to the ones your mentioned and it is one of the most reliable and flexible handguns made. The P226 is all around nice. It is the firearm of choice of many in law enforcement for the sheer confidence it brings but it's in a different pricing category than the others.
I hope this helps.
All that said, I put an average of 500-1000 rounds, depending on time of year, down range each week. I have shot many different handguns, in just about every caliber ever produced. I can tell you first hand that what I gravitated towards many moons ago is not the type of HG I shoot today. Granted, I own many but the fact remains that my motivations drastically changed as I gained experience with various different models.
The 9mm's I would look into as a new buyer and have recommended to new purchasers, in no particular order, would be the Sig P226, the FN FNX-9, the Walther P99 and the Beretta 92FS. The Beretta is uber reliable, feels good in hand and builds confidence at the range. The P99 has one of the best stock triggers out there and the ergonomics are excellent. The FN is an underdog but offers similar features to the ones your mentioned and it is one of the most reliable and flexible handguns made. The P226 is all around nice. It is the firearm of choice of many in law enforcement for the sheer confidence it brings but it's in a different pricing category than the others.
I hope this helps.
thank you! that was very insightful. I was looking at the HK for looks. I saw it and just wanted it lol. Then I saw it was guns/ammo pistol of the year so I thought how could I go wrong? I do have an indoor range nearby that rents guns, ill see if they have some I can spend some time with.
Sound advise there^ can't top this info, personally I go with sig sauer p228 variation on a theme, for concealment if you need such a thing, best of both worlds. But find out what's best for you, you may be surprised what you discover down the range.
There is always the highly regarded Glock 19 as well. I shot that as well as both guns mentioned in this thread. My purchase- Walther PPQ M1 with Trijicon HD Night Sights
Bells, whistles, accessories, rails, and switches to fumble with when the shit hits the fan !! As a first "Fumble Free" semi automatic hand gun, it is hard to beat, very, very hard to beat a good Glock model 19 with Corbon 115 grain JHP +P ammo. ............. Try this combo at your range. Both stationary and running a drill. If you don't come home smiling, then you must be drunk !!....................... this is what the real pros use. All day long, all of the time. ............Good luck on your quest !!
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For those trying to decide on what caliber to choose in a defensive handgun, watch this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy71umadb6k ......what goes around, comes back around !!Having shot Colt .45 acp's all my life,[safe queens now] and trusted them fully, I cant but for the life of me be surprised by these new 'on the street' revelations and facts about the modern ''Wonder Nines" out there in regards to ammo choice. The .40 cal was an 'answer' to a non existing problem from the very get-go. Now the facts are out. And it took 25 years to find out. Hahaha !! Heck, anyone, even a woman can shoot a .45acp much better then a .40sw. it has always been that way. Ask any rangemaster. You want oomph, then a .45 does not even need to expand to do a 'hammer job'. The lowly 9mm of lore has come a looong way baby. With the right ammo and pistol combo, it will apparently do a good job !! If you Google " FBI to return to the 9mm" you will read about this fact finding study. Amongst the guns in the finals are the Sig 226/228's and the Glock 17/19's. Well proven no fooling around workhorses. It also follows that the US Secret Service and Law Enforcement Agency's follow suit. It is a given. If it is good for the FBI, it must be good............... Once this starts, you will see a multitude of traded in used .40 s&w caliber pistols at all shops selling for a song and a dance !! And don't be a silly noob and listen to your gunshop salesmem, they would sell you anything to move stock. And forget about most youtube warriors and commercial magazine articles. Chose wisely, and read up. Your gut will tell you when you have made a good choice. Listen to reason and facts, not to hearsay !! Practice, practice, and practice. Choose well, and sleep well, knowing you can be prepared for that 'bump in the night'. God forbid, it would never come.