only thing i keep in my safe is my guns. not because i want to, but because the UK government does not allow me to take responsibility for defending me and mine.
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Don’t say that too loudly or you’ll lose them, the police aren’t even shy about the fact that any reason to discontinue a certificate and remove firearms from civilian ownership is a good one.
Furious when they rewrote the obsolete and antiques definition a couple of years ago, I sold something off before the changes took force and I remain bitter about having had to do it, it was a bloody obsolete and antique revolver until they decided it wasn’t!
Here in the US (and I'm sure many places), this would be considered pre-meditated. If they got caught, would be big, big consequences. Can you carry any form of self-protection in Italy? I'm not talking about a gun, but pepper spray? Maybe a knife? Something? It's not the stuff that I would care about, it's the personal safety aspect. Sorry to hear about your friend :-(
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I want to say, completely off topic to all the other stuff, but this is a very gorgeous 116613LB which is unique, it's the "pre-sunburst" variant made only for a few years, and additionally, it's the "diamond" marker variant, also very rare.
I don't buy watches for "investment", purely for "beauty" but there's a strong chance this will become a rare icon, it was only made for a few years, it is a ultra rare variant, and dare I say might be one of the few maxi-case subs that I enjoy.
the problem is precisely the law.. in Italy if you are caught stealing they arrest you to take your details and in a few hours you are free which is why thieves are not afraid. I have an acquaintance who, having found thieves in his house, locked them inside and then called the police. the consequence was that he was reported for kidnapping while the thief got away with it. You cannot use weapons in Italy unless you demonstrate it is for personal defense but you are in more trouble using them than not using them
Kidnapping? Common sense would tell officials that this is completely insane. However though, here in the US, years ago, someone broke into another person's house while they weren't home, tripped on some loose carpeting, and sued the homeowners.....and won. It's a strange world we live in.
Same thing happen in Italy..
another ended up on the news because having found the thief in the house he chased him with his hunting rifle, shot him and since he was dead, the family reported the owner of the house and he ended up in prison
It's unbelievable. I'm pretty open-minded. If I see someone stealing my car...take it. They need it more than I do, but come into my house where my family is? We will have a problem. I'm not saying I'd shoot them immediately, but danger would exist for them. I'll give you the option to leave (I'm saying this as I can assume what I'd do in this scenario. I don't know. No one does). I guess the one advantage about being in the US (or most of it), is that sane people think before they break into someone's house. You have no clue who has a gun. None. Is a TV or some jewelry worth your life? I don't feel it is.
but at least from what I know from friends who live in America, if someone enters your house you can shoot him in self-defense. in Italy even if you have a weapon you have to wait for him to open fire first and then you can respond otherwise is not authorised. crazy
It depends on what state, whether certain law exist there that would protect you in this sense, and a few other things, but primarily you have to prove your life was in danger. There needs to be certain things present, like opportunity and intent, all of which would exist immediately if the other person had a gun. It's a slippery slope in most cases. There are a lot of "cowboys" that feel they can Chuck Norris every situation and will be drinking a PBR by the end of the night after shooting someone.
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I have 2 rottweilers and a jack russel but unfortunately they are not always with me 
One of my best friends lives in Ghent and has told me similar stories. It's amazing how in some cases, criminals are so protected in BE.
The de-listing of the .41 LC was what impacted my lovely antique. And while they were at it they also de-listed some of the .320s I would have bought instead!