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Figuring out SWISS ETA 2832 /ASIAN eta2832

fistball

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Ok, I went to the REP website, and I am being confused about the movement used in some of the watches?

When the ROLLIE says it use SWISS ETA 2832-2 movement, means it is really a genuine SWISS ETA?

or a high quality clone of SWISS ETA?

what about asian clone eta 2832-2?
 
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d4m.test

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If it say genuine its should be genuine...but mistakes are sometimes made and its Asian
 

DJT1

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Generally if it say A2832 it's Asian & like Dr, Gran says Swiss is usually Swiss. But feel free to ask TD's to be sure
 

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This is the problem , mate.
I've bought when I come in this community my first rep , with Swiss Eta.
Well , when was be opened , more or less the 80% was be Swiss eta , and I've paid for a new Eta.
This is usually , it's not strange.
So , for my personal opinion , the A2836/2824 etc , here's very good calibers.
And if I want fit a Swiss Eta , like mine watch , I buy a Swiss Eta , dismount the Asian , and fit it.
IMHO[emoji3]

Regard

Junio M.


Sent from Basement of Hell [emoji52]
 

pittrek

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every time when i have an option i chose swiss... i think it's quieter when winding
 

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every time when i have an option i chose swiss... i think it's quieter when winding

You pay $150 more just so it winds quieter? oh my. I've had both swiss movements and Asian and there's not been a difference in the winding at all. I've had swiss reps that click nice and crisp when you wind them and Asian movements that click nice and crisp too. So I don't notice any difference. I agree with Debellum, I've had the same experience with the swiss, they are a mix of Asian and swiss parts. at least the ones I have got have both been that way. I too would much rather get the Asian, just as reliable and probably even more so than the rep swiss movements they use.
 

pittrek

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You pay $150 more just so it winds quieter? oh my. I've had both swiss movements and Asian and there's not been a difference in the winding at all. I've had swiss reps that click nice and crisp when you wind them and Asian movements that click nice and crisp too. So I don't notice any difference. I agree with Debellum, I've had the same experience with the swiss, they are a mix of Asian and swiss parts. at least the ones I have got have both been that way. I too would much rather get the Asian, just as reliable and probably even more so than the rep swiss movements they use.
i'm a weirdo... yeah i know :D
 

If you see Kay

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Asian eta is very good IMHO. I have both and the both run smooth and I can't tell the diff in noise from the rotor. Save your money and go Asian.
 

DJT1

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When I purchased my first few reps I opted for asian movements. They worked fine for a long time until I snagged the keyless works on one of them. Took it to lots of watchsmiths & they all said cheap Asian movement we won't touch them. Do not be fooled by hearsay like this, I have personally stripped & serviced many Swiss & Asian movements. Yes the Asian gears, cogs, wheels etc are not as polished precision wise. However, in my limited experience it's generally the keyless works that goes faulty & this will happen on either Asian or Swiss. As long as you stay away from faux decorated movements 3135etc. You'll be fine
 

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As far as i know the 2832 has NOT been cloned.

Its basically the same as a 2836 but at 36000 BPH instead of 28800.



Where are you getting this from?
 

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As far as i know the 2832 has NOT been cloned.

Its basically the same as a 2836 but at 36000 BPH instead of 28000.



Where are you getting this from?
Good info, never new about the bpm difference. Gonna have to track one down now for my v5 hulk
 

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Good info, never new about the bpm difference. Gonna have to track one down now for my v5 hulk

Yeah they run at the same beat as the Grand Seiko HiBeat and the Zenith El Primero....
Super smooth sweep.

The only thing smoother is the Bulova Precisionist movement or the Bulova Accutron "Hummer"
 

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Yeah they run at the same beat as the Grand Seiko HiBeat and the Zenith El Primero....
Super smooth sweep.

The only thing smoother is the Bulova Precisionist movement or the Bulova Accutron "Hummer"
Jesus Christ your a mind of information. Don't think I'll find a cheap one on flea Bay lol[emoji1]
 

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All the specs are exactly the same as the 2836 with the exception of the Beat

ETA 2832

Features

automatic
sweep second
day: quickset
date: quickset
hack feature

Data
11.5''', Dm= 25.6mm, Do= 26.0mm
incl. dial spacer:
H= 5.1mm
(ball bearing +0.1mm)
F= 1.65mm
T= 2.25mm
17 jewels
f = 36000 A/h
power reserve 40h

Stem W3408

Mainspring / battery
1.20 x 11.0 x 0.115mm

Hands
1.50 x 0.90 x 0.25mm

ETA 2836

Features

automatic
sweep second
day: quickset, 2 languages
date: quickset
option: hack feature

Data
11.5''', Dm= 25.6mm, Do= 26.0mm
incl. dial spacer:
H= 5.1mm
(ball bearing +0.1mm)
F= 1.65mm
T= 2.25mm
17/21/25 jewels
f = 28800 A/h
power reserve 40h

Balance staff ETA 2801

Stem W3408

Mainspring / battery
1.20 x 11.0 x 0.115mm

Hands
1.50 x 0.90 x 0.25mm


All hand fitting and dimensions are the same between the 28,800 and 36,000 bph versions.

Further, all parts, except the second wheel (#227), escape wheel (#705), balance assembly (# 721) and hack lever (#9433) are common between the 28,800 and 36,000 bph versions. Even the mainsprings
 

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Just tried to buy now, but it says does not ship to my primary address in uk.

I've emailed him, so fingers crossed.

I guess as it's the same eta 2800 family it should be straight swap. Once I remove calendar bits.



Good luck with that i wanted it sooooo baddddd !!!!

:(:(:(
 

DJT1

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All the specs are exactly the same as the 2836 with the exception of the Beat

ETA 2832

Features

automatic
sweep second
day: quickset
date: quickset
hack feature

Data
11.5''', Dm= 25.6mm, Do= 26.0mm
incl. dial spacer:
H= 5.1mm
(ball bearing +0.1mm)
F= 1.65mm
T= 2.25mm
17 jewels
f = 36000 A/h
power reserve 40h

Stem W3408

Mainspring / battery
1.20 x 11.0 x 0.115mm

Hands
1.50 x 0.90 x 0.25mm

ETA 2836

Features

automatic
sweep second
day: quickset, 2 languages
date: quickset
option: hack feature

Data
11.5''', Dm= 25.6mm, Do= 26.0mm
incl. dial spacer:
H= 5.1mm
(ball bearing +0.1mm)
F= 1.65mm
T= 2.25mm
17/21/25 jewels
f = 28800 A/h
power reserve 40h

Balance staff ETA 2801

Stem W3408

Mainspring / battery
1.20 x 11.0 x 0.115mm

Hands
1.50 x 0.90 x 0.25mm


All hand fitting and dimensions are the same between the 28,800 and 36,000 bph versions.

Further, all parts, except the second wheel (#227), escape wheel (#705), balance assembly (# 721) and hack lever (#9433) are common between the 28,800 and 36,000 bph versions. Even the mainsprings
Therefore could a 2836 be converted to 36000 bpm with correct parts?