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Entire line of APs from JF will be updated

watchtiger

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after all the real talk on previous pages - i totally agree with - i have to say i feel the change in a subtle way as the competition gets harder and harder (XF for example)

after years of re releasing wrong colors and the same flaws over and over again without changing the color for the paint mod - there seems to be that there are updates coming.


the dial color looks way better and maybe it is one of the newer batches - the one on PT could be an older dial with new DW and Cyclops... or it is really just the lighting as it was horrible on the combat 44mm too... (too salmon and pinkish/ peach colored)

this is a nice step in the right direction from JF IMHO (even if every AP rep has its flaws - i can totally live with it when there are no manufacturing errors like mismatching hands, lume color or sloppy assembly and dirt under the crystal etc. As long as you get what you pay for (yeah, we also pay for the flaws theirselves) we could buy the watches we like while saving money without dropping a couple grand

everything else regarding the flaws on reps and being too anal about them is already said by the Don himself.

Hoping for the correct color for this brick as well. If it is then Im getting it no question. I agree that updates and improvements, though slow — have been materializing.

Exciting times ahead esp with the 2018 releases too!
 

dhistory

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I get how everyone wants 100% gen. Don’t take this the wrong way please, believe me I want gen too, but I’m not as anal about the tachy or hand pinion, etc. I get it, do those mods along with everything else and it’s almost flawless.

What I don’t get is where everyone is wearing their watches that they are so afraid someone is going to call them out for the tachy or date wheel position or something else.

Take this story for example.. my buddy has a modded titanium Schumacher. I believe the only mod he did was the dial color. So, no cyclops, no date wheel, I don’t even think he changed the crystal, but I could be wrong on that. No hand pinion mod, no tachy shaving, no LWO, etc. He actually bumped into a Gen owner of the same titanium Schumacher. I know what you’re thinking, what are the chances right? Lol

Anyways, the gen owner was so impressed by the replica and cost and couldn’t believe how good it was. The gen owner didn’t even know to look for the hand pinion, dw position, or even dw font/size for that matter. The only thing the gen owner expressed in his emotion was feeling silly for spending so much money on a gen watch when the rep is nearly identical.

Here is a photo of their encounter below. The rep owner is a very famous member btw, perhaps someone has seen a previous post on this. Not sure if he went into this much detail as him and I did live when he told me the story.

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Here is my modded one for comparison with additional mods done.

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All I’m saying is I don’t understand how some people whether it’s noobs or long term members get that turned off by a watch that is released so close to the real thing for a fraction of the cost. It’s as if they feel JF owes them something they get so mad. Can JF fix it? Sure they can, but they may not want to for various reasons. If it upsets one so much, I don’t understand all the bitching and negative comments/complaining on various threads. Simply go out and buy the gen and don’t worry about what JF and China are doing in the rep world or set a plan or goal and mod to your satisfaction and enjoy the watch if you want it that badly.

The Sincere threads are a big example of this. Puretime and JF did an amazing job, sure there are flaws, but one can mod them and correct most if not all if they wanted to. I just don’t understand how some people say “the watch is not gen, I’m not buying it and cancelling my order” then go about knocking everyone else’s watch who is enjoying it so much. The accomplishments many members have achieved in this community are amazing and I am very grateful for that and RWI.

I just think some are being unrealistic and unfair expecting a $30,000 watch for $600 100% gen or they are upset. Instead of complaining, do something about it, remain positive and mod the watch or set a goal to save some money and buy the gen. The most successful people do not complain. Perhaps some can learn from this and look at what modders have accomplished in setting their goals and achieving them.

Just my two cents...


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I’ve never seen an AP in the wild, on top of that, most people haven’t seen a real ceramic sports Rollie in the flesh either. You’re right, it will never be perfect unless it is gen. I used to be OCD about the smallest imperfection, but once I started acquiring the gen lineup, people thought they were fake lol
At that moment, I discovered it’s important to have fun with this hobby, and not let it get too serious. Cheers bud!
 

Tigerdragon

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The ceramic submariners have one of the worst QC ever see the ARF thread when someone posted a Gen clasp.

Sorry but AP is miles better than Rolex in QC and Gen is not perfect
 

TheDonSL

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The ceramic submariners have one of the worst QC ever see the ARF thread when someone posted a Gen clasp.

Sorry but AP is miles better than Rolex in QC and Gen is not perfect

I recently traveled to the Caribbean and went to a Rolex dealer there. I tried on the platinum bezel grey Dial yacht Master. Not only was the genuine Rolex the dirtiest watch I’ve ever seen with so many fingerprints and poorly kept, but the rehaut was way off and not centered .

I tried to express this to the sales woman who seemed to know a lot about each model but didn’t even know what a rehaut was.

I took a couple of photos of my visit however it’s a bit tough to see the rehaut in the photos I think.

Either way moral of the story is I’m waiting for my boy ARF lol

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Tigerdragon

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Common issue along with blue tinted magnification glasses which rolex say "Oh thats not a mistake thats a feature" and other ridiclious excuses.
 
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mech500

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Sorry but AP is miles better than Rolex in QC and Gen is not perfect


I agree but AP price tag is suitably higher than Rolex....so higher level of QC is expected.

Fit and finish on a Royal Oak (for example) is not even in the same planet as any Rolex sports model I have come across.



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balditron

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Hello, I'm on the urge of buying a JF 15450. However, after reading this thread I'm having second thoughts. Is it worth waiting a bit and see if he releases a better version?
Or maybe not enough people have small wrists so he wont release update any time soon?
Thanks in advance for any answer
 

BIONONE

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Hello, I'm on the urge of buying a JF 15450. However, after reading this thread I'm having second thoughts. Is it worth waiting a bit and see if he releases a better version?
Or maybe he is more focused on the 41mm versions?

this thread of the updates refers to the ROOffshore line not the ROYAL OAK models.

I don't think there will be a new updated version of the 15450 soon as the 15400 is selling well i guess... Maybe when there are bigger improvements for all RO's like a new tapissserie dial or a new movement to reduce case thickness...

but till then i think it will be the only option you have.
 

balditron

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this thread of the updates refers to the ROOffshore line not the ROYAL OAK models.

I don't think there will be a new updated version of the 15450 soon as the 15400 is selling well i guess... Maybe when there are bigger improvements for all RO's like a new tapissserie dial or a new movement to reduce case thickness...

but till then i think it will be the only option you have.

OK, thank you for the quick answer mate. Hmm.. I've heard some mixed opinions on the JF 15450 quality, some say the thickness is a obvious tell, some say it doesnt matter too much..

As a complete noob to this rep thing, this is so confusing haha. But I'll probably just buy it anyway
 

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BIONONE TheDonSL Bad news — it looks like the 2014 gold theme dial was not updated and still looks copper-ish/pink-ish. Ended up getting the havana blue model
 

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So the dial is very close to gen. Nice! Guess all it need is to slim the hand pinions and shaved tachy to have almost 90+% close to gen

Well although shaving the tachy will take away at least 33.3% from the 'gen likeness' but what do I know. :hehehe:
 
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TheDonSL

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So the dial is very close to gen. Nice! Guess all it need is to slim the hand pinions and shaved tachy to have almost 90+% close to gen

Honestly not sure, the dial looks different in different lighting. It’s def not as gen, but not bad. I believe they gave this dial a metallic sheen which I don’t believe the gen has.
 
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