DSN 063GMT macro shot and AR show

[pineypl]

Here is one shot I got yesterday of my rather new DSN Pam 063GMT. I was able to get a good macro shot, notice the layering on the numerals. The hands glow well, but the dial is nearly impossible to get any glow from. :-( And no, this is not some of my lume work. :-D

While posing the watch, I was able to get the AR to show it's color, as you can see here.

Posting this in case anyone wanted to see. I really love this watch, just wish the numerals glowed more than a few minutes.

 

[turbogt]

Great shot. You should post the rest of the pictures.

And with the lume issue... why don't you send it for re-lume? I'm in that debate right now with my SFSO.

Cheers!

 

[vdubpower]

if Davidson custom makes his watches then shouldnt the lume been good from day one, in orther words, how are his differetn than buying a 63 from josh/eddie

 

[JJFlash]

...and why did he use C3 lume, the green stuff, until recently on his 005?
Only his most recent model now uses C1 lume.
One of several great mysteries of DSN.

 

[Jurgenk]

More DSN mysteries:

Which side got the AR treatment? I thought Davidsen was on the record saying he didn't want to AR these guys at all because of the unsatisfying results from the interior cyclops?

Your example looks completely fine-- and looks like an "inside job." Did DSN have a change of heart?

What else was upgraded-- crown, or lume, or cyclops?

 

[pineypl]

I am indeed thinking of a relume for the dial. The hands are quite strong with lume. I'll dig through the shots and post a couple more tomorrow. I have them at the office. :-(

I am not sure why this dial is of weak lume. Although I am not too worried about it right now.

No clue on the C3 lume. I am a noob, so I am out of my league a bit I think.

No upgrades that I am aware of. I think the AR is on the outside. He may have said there would be no AR, but like my DSN 111h, at certain angles the crystal goes blue. That is why I took this shot.

I am so confused, I wish I was smarter. Like I said I am new to the reps and I just really liked DSNs 111h sandwich dial and the cases look great, and from what I have read, he has always had good remarks on his watches, so I went with DSN for the Pams. Either way, the 111h and the 063 get a LOT of wrist time, as evidenced below.

 

[vdubpower]

so we still really have no answer how his 63 is any different than others

does he make his pams from ground up or just mod the general supply that eveyone has.

 

[Jurgenk]

not my intent to imply anything negative about the watch--

The 063 is still one of my top two all time favorites for the PAM and you have one of the nicest examples I've seen so far.

beautiful watch, will have to get one myself sooner or later. thanks for sharing

 

[pineypl]

so we still really have no answer how his 63 is any different than others

does he make his pams from ground up or just mod the general supply that eveyone has.

As far as I know and have read, most of his cases are different than others. So from that I presume he builds up his watches one at a time. This is just a presumption on my part. He seems to have all the spare parts if you need them, so I think he is a craftsman of sorts, who still does hand assemble. I know he advertises the 111h as pressure tested, regulated, etc., so I would think this carries into the other models as well.

His crown and tube will not work with other crowns or tubes, so most of his parts must be unique to him....

 

[stutzer]

I just finalized a 2 watch deal with David today and am out to WU tomorrow. One of my picks was this same 063. You've just confirmed I made the right decision! He did not mention AR in our conversation, but did confirm superlume. Thanks for the post!!

 

[pineypl]

not my intent to imply anything negative about the watch--

The 063 is still one of my top two all time favorites for the PAM and you have one of the nicest examples I've seen so far.

beautiful watch, will have to get one myself sooner or later. thanks for sharing

Sorry, I did not mean to come across that way. I took no offense, I am just a noob to this rep bidness, and want to know what is what, but can only tells ya what I know. ;-) It really is a fantastic watch, it keeps great time, looks fantastic, feels great on the wrist, and sounds lovely when it is near my ear. Rep or Gen, I would say the DSNs have maybe had more impact than any of the others. I have a Fortis Flieger that is fantastic and had been a grail for some time, when I got it I was stunned, but when I got the DSNs I was stunned AND dazed.

I think most any of the watches here could go with sterile dials and easily be worth the price. I also have a Breitling SuperOcean SteelFish from Ruby with a black UPO on order from her as well. Any one of those watches is just a tremendous piece to put on. I am quite happy to read all the posts hear and learn as much as I can, so thanks to all for looking and posting, I am indeed enjoying this place.

And FWIW, I am a harmless goofball, often belittling myself, so no offense is meant and none is taken, but I truly wish I knew more about the 063. Perhaps I can email DSN abot it and get a bit more of a definitive answer.

 

[pineypl]

I just finalized a 2 watch deal with David today and am out to WU tomorrow. One of my picks was this same 063. You've just confirmed I made the right decision! He did not mention AR in our conversation, but did confirm superlume. Thanks for the post!!

Hi Stutzer, I think you will be quite pleased with the watch. It really is something to strap on your wrist. Once you get it, see if you can see what I do with the blue glass at certain angles. I notice it most in sunlight.

 

[pineypl]

Another pic of the 063

As promised last night more pics of the 063.

I love this watch!!

Forgive the dust on the crystal.

 

[spookycord]

if Davidson custom makes his watches then shouldnt the lume been good from day one, in orther words, how are his differetn than buying a 63 from josh/eddie

I have wondered this about the 63 that his is selling. Specs.

44MM STEEL CASE 100% HIGH POLSIED CASE AND CG
:-GENUINE SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL
:-SWISS ETA 2836 MOD GMT MOVT(NEW VERSION WITH INDEP ADJSUTABLE GMT HAND)
:- STANDARD SWISS QUAILITY LUMED DIAL AND HANDS
:-CLOSE DSTEEL CAE BACK
:-GOOD QUALITY STRAP

US$ 260.00/PC WITH FREE SHIPPING

Sounds a lot like Josh's. No mention of reluming or recasing. Plus just by judging by the price, it's a lot less than his custom jobs. Then again, based on his price, it's a pretty good deal. Of course someone could just ask him if he does anything to these pieces.

 

[pineypl]

I have posted an email to DSN regarding the ar, and the dial lume.

I'll post the response.

 

[flavor flav]

...and why did he use C3 lume, the green stuff, until recently on his 005?
Only his most recent model now uses C1 lume.
One of several great mysteries of DSN.

wish they were c3...... they were all c5 or not tritec.

 

[ronr9286t]

PAM 063

The 63 is also one of my favorites. It was one of the first reps I acquired (from Andrew), about a year ago.

The GMT hand moves properly with the main hands when setting, but it only advances irregularly when running. It keeps great time, and looks great, so I'm not terribly concerned. At some point I may send it to one of the repair and mod folks here.

The funny thing is, a friend just bought a 63 from Davidsen, and his behaves exactly like mine. He's sent his back to Davidsen for repair.

I've since acquired 2 other GMTs, both from Josh, an 89 and a 29. Both run well, including the GMT indicator.

I'm a sucker for central sweep-second hands and titanium.

 

[pineypl]

Interesting note about the movement of the 24hr hand. As far as I have noticed, mine moves smoothly both when settings and during normal use.

How did you know it was not moving properly? That may be an obvious question, but I am not sure if I have watched the 24hr hand enough to really notice if it moves smoothly or jumps every so often with the time, as I suppose yours may be doing?

 

[ronr9286t]

063 GMT hand

I know it is not moving properly when the watch runs accurately and the GMT hand stays in the same spot over 12, 24, 26, 28 .... hours.

It is strange, because it moves perfectly (one complete revolution of the dial for 2 revolutions of the hour hand) when setting. It just doesn't move when the watch is running normally.

In my small sample of 2 (mine and my friend's whose is off to Davidsen), both 63s behaved the same.

My other three GMTs (29, 88, and 89) all operate exactly as designed.

 

[pineypl]

Dang, that is bad, Ron. Sorry to hear it.
Hope it gets worked out for you. Will you be sending yours out?