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Does anyone know how Triangle shipping works with "4px" ?

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As the title states - Does anyone know how Triangle shipping works with "4px"?

I ordered Triangle shipping but it seems like the tracking number shows directly from China to My destination (EU), TD however claims it will pass through UK?

My understanding was they had a guy in the UK who would repack and send it off from there?
 

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Most details I could get our of the TD was "it will make stop in uk" so that didn't explain much :)
 

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This is a routing example " China - Germany ( repack / relabeled ) - UK. UK customs will think country of origin I Germany.
 

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Essentially 4px are a combined logistics and distribution company.
Rather then use ems or dhl who route packages through their own hubs and often through official customs channels, 4px ship directly between their own warehouses using their own logistics infrastructure.
So your package will go from the China warehouse to the Uk warehouse, where it will then in turn repackaged or re labelled to be shipped to your country. As it looks like it’s coming from the Uk, the customs will be bypassed.
Thats my understanding anyhow.
 
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Essentially 4px are a combined logistics and distribution company.
Rather then use ems or dhl who route packages through their own hubs and often through official customs channels, 4px ship directly between their own warehouses using their own logistics infrastructure.
So your package will go from the China warehouse to the Uk warehouse, where it will then in turn repackaged or re labelled to be shipped to your country. As it looks like it’s coming from the Uk, the customs will be bypassed.
Thats my understanding anyhow.

While that makes sense, it seems very odd that it's allowed since all packages from China > EU won't pay any import taxes/VAT that way?
 

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Can I use 4px for custom orders (like bags etc) or is it just for Chinese users?

I'm trying to find a safe and kinda cheap way to do triangle shipping from China to Greece via UK

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Essentially 4px are a combined logistics and distribution company.
Rather then use ems or dhl who route packages through their own hubs and often through official customs channels, 4px ship directly between their own warehouses using their own logistics infrastructure.
So your package will go from the China warehouse to the Uk warehouse, where it will then in turn repackaged or re labelled to be shipped to your country. As it looks like it’s coming from the Uk, the customs will be bypassed.
Thats my understanding anyhow.

Its not necessary to use their own WH per say, its mostly in the documentation. 4PX will have a service contract with DHL at half what you & I pay. It's less expensive for 4PX to use exciting DHL set up rather than buying their own.

When our TD ships from China they book with 4PX.
Shipper: Puretime
Cnee : Nipe

4PX than creates their own Master bill of lading
Shipper: 4PX China
Cnee: 4PX UK

4PX than books the shipment with DHL at lower rates.

Once the package arrives at DHL UK (or another WH ) its picked up by a third party and shipped off to Germany based on new labels / documentation if that's where Nipe lives. DHL might not be involved in this leg.

German customs will think the good are coming from the EU.
 
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Its not necessary to use their own WH per say, its mostly in the documentation. 4PX will have a service contract with DHL at half what you & I pay. It's less expensive for 4PX to use exciting DHL set up rather than buying their own.

When our TD ships from China they book with 4PX.
Shipper: Puretime
Cnee : Nipe

4PX than creates their own Master bill of lading
Shipper: 4PX China
Cnee: 4PX UK

4PX than books the shipment with DHL at lower rates.

Once the package arrives at DHL UK (or another WH ) its picked up by a third party and shipped off to Germany based on new labels / documentation if that's where Nipe lives. DHL might not be involved in this leg.

German customs will think the good are coming from the EU.

So basically the EU misses out on import duties and VAT for all these parcels entering in this way
 

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They may well use others warehouses, but they have thier own all over the world as well. UK, Australia, Germany, China and US.
 

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So basically the EU misses out on import duties and VAT for all these parcels entering in this way

Yes on smaller packages shipped as low value, but this happened on direct shipments as well. Due to the fact that exporters state low value on the packages.
More serious providers will pay VAT & duties to the country it first arrive to in the EU and collect back from you when you pick it up from your postoffice or pickup point based on the commercial invoice value.
 

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This is a routing example " China - Germany ( repack / relabeled ) - UK. UK customs will think country of origin I Germany.

A bit strange.

I've compared to other 'triangle' shipments in the forum and it seems like they all got a Customs cleared in the UK for their shipment, this didn't happen with me it was just sent through UK without customs notifications and now landed by customs in Frankfurt where it hasn't moved since last week. Should have been delivered by now but there aren't any updates since arrived in Germany. Fuck.

It's also still the same tracking number throughout the whole process so I don't see how it has been relabeled to look like it's coming from the UK. Think I got screwed on this one.
 

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I am looking for a guide for this triangle shipment. can someone help me please
 

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I am looking for a guide for this triangle shipment. can someone help me please

The way it worked out for me was: Shipping from china to UK (x days) - Stayed in UK for 2 days and was then shipped directly to me in EU via normal mail. Arrived safely 5-8 days after it arrived in UK.
 
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Thank you nipe ! I think I'm running into the same issue at the moment and this was very helpful. I assume the customs are done in the UK ? You would have not gotten it in Germany otherwise probably.
 

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Thank you nipe ! I think I'm running into the same issue at the moment and this was very helpful. I assume the customs are done in the UK ? You would have not gotten it in Germany otherwise probably.

Yes exactly. Well, 4PX is doing customs on their own (AFAIK) so it will just be in their sorting facility, get a new label and forwarded to your destination.. No need to worry if it doesn't move for 2-5 days. Tracking updates suck as well. I didn't get any updates on tracking for 5 days or so and then it was just suddenly delivered
 
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