• Tired of adverts on RWI? - Subscribe by clicking HERE and PMing Trailboss for instructions and they will magically go away!

Dishonest & unhelpful

Rx4Time

Supporter, Panerai lover
Patron
Certified
31/3/16
11,853
10,283
113
CONUS
I think he ordered only one but sent the money TWICE thinking the 2nd one would clear faster than the first....
Yes I saw the dollar amount now when I looked back through. Sometimes I get lost in the long-winded rants. Still could be more than one watch or could just be one like for example a Daytona. When I saw him reference a genuine Tudor could have been purchased for what he sent I assumed it was a higher dollar value. I'm not sure what genuine Tudor black shield ceramic can be bought for $1600 but that's a whole other issue. Still sucks regardless that the money is floating around our there
 

steve_theonewatches

Trusted Dealer
Trusted Dealer
27/6/16
768
2,292
93
Hi I made an order with Steve a long way back. Two things. First, my bank had confirmed that Steve had received the money. Steve claimed otherwise. Therefore, I had to make another transfer, with hope that Steve is trustworthy.

It has been more than a month and I am sick and tired of chasing the return of the first payment. Which Steve claimed not received.

My bank gave me official successful transfer confirmation to facilitate a follow up with Steve and his bank. However, it was to no avail.

Steve asked to explain the situation which j did for an hour and it was read by him. But he have decided to ghost me.

So here I am, more than a month and paid USD 858 twice to a dishonest Steve.

It's big money which I could fucking buy a nice gen which I have been eyeing.

Buy at your own risk!

Should I hold all evidence.of my conversation with Steve and both ours banks. Please becareful and not fall victim like me.
Hello friend,

Sorry for the inconveniences.

The first payment was failed because you printed the name incorrectly, we found that and informed you to cancel and get it back.

And you kindly paid to us again with the right name, we also confirmed recevied and arranged shipping already.

We tried to contact the bank for times to help to return the first payment and we have replied everyday via whatsapp and email

But we are really have no idea when the bank will be refund since it need time to process.

We also hope this issues will be solved asap and you get your money back

Thanks
 

Matthewlcy

Do not accept unsolicited offers
20/6/22
11
3
3
Hello friend,

Sorry for the inconveniences.

The first payment was failed because you printed the name incorrectly, we found that and informed you to cancel and get it back.

And you kindly paid to us again with the right name, we also confirmed recevied and arranged shipping already.

We tried to contact the bank for times to help to return the first payment and we have replied everyday via whatsapp and email

But we are really have no idea when the bank will be refund since it need time to process.

We also hope this issues will be solved asap and you get your money back

Thanks
@steve_theonewatches . You claimed u checked in on the HK bank for me almost everyday.

Can you show proof that u had sent an email to the bank with the attachment my bank provided? As I had requested kindly of you? I even provided the email address of your bank's customer service.

I know u did not receive the money. The first time round. But Steve the bank attachment I sent you for your kind onward forwarding to your bank's customer service email.... would have helped. It would even have helped u receive your funds.

So am I wrong to say u are dishonest because u did not help me follow up with your bank? I show proof. But all u say is u follow up everyday. If you really did honestly bothered to email in the customer service with the bank mandate attachment. Show me.

For all that are here yes I made a fuss at god forsaken time given Steve's timezone. But I am in the same time zone as steve.

So show me proof here that u did email in to your HK bank and with the attachment.

If you did, you are honest. And I will apologise.



Simple request to just email in with attachment.

Show us u did it.
 

Matthewlcy

Do not accept unsolicited offers
20/6/22
11
3
3
@steve_theonewatches

You know why I call u out as dishonest?

You herewith proclaimed that u have contacted your bank many times.

I question your honesty because I have only a simple request for you. Show me proof that u executed my request (email your HK bank customer service with the attachment).

If you did email in, then you are honest.




 

Matthewlcy

Do not accept unsolicited offers
20/6/22
11
3
3
That was my only request. To email yoir bank cust svc email, with my bank's support.

Did you do it? Or did you just checked your bank balance on daily basis.

Show us u sent the email. And I be damned.
 

Reaps

Learning something new everyday....
25/9/22
6,300
17,373
113
Look, I'm gonna say only one thing. Having dealt with transactions internationally for several years now, legitimately and for fake watches.

You have to understand, no TD is going to EVER email and or call a bank for a transaction for an ILLEGAL \WATCH.

If you ever talked to banking support, regarding transaction, lost funds, etc, they'll ask why this transaction happened, what it's for, why is he receiving it, etc, why it needs a refund right? It's not as easy as you think.

If this was for a legitimate transfer, or remittance, or anything legal, then this is easy. Proof of payment, proof of services exchanged, legitimate source of money, company papers, all are legal and can be provided. But illegal watch? There's none of that. "Oh yes I received this remittance from a friend...." is not an excuse that will fly in international banking.

It's not that simple. They risk their lives, going to jail, fraud, illegal wire transfers. For you it's money, yes, this sucks, I'm sure the money is floating around somewhere. But into perspective for them, they risk going to 5-10 years in jail for selling counterfeit goods and illegal wire transfers for illegal goods.

And, I don't want to pin the blame on you, because, I understand how frustrating this is. But your accusatory tone and demanding is not going to really help any further. But you sent the money to a wrong name...... this whole thing could have been prevented if you double checked the first time.

Sometimes in the fake watch game, you have to accept loss. My rule is never send money into fake watches, you cannot lose. The TDs here will try their best to service you, but reminder that this is ILLEGAL. Sometimes things will go wrong and you have to accept it.
 

Karbon74

Pika Factory
Patron
Certified
5/5/23
10,261
20,011
113
EU - Kalos Region
I don't understand why the TD has to work to fix a mistake that OP made? 🤔

and be called dishonest and unhelpful on top of that.

If the transfer was sent to the wrong name, the TD cannot ask anything to the bank because the money is NOT linked to them, because WRONG NAME duh

Imagine calling your bank to say "hey someone send money to a wrong name and it should be to me". The bank would unleash their auditors on you. 😳
 

Zeta7

I'm Pretty Popular
Supporter
Certified
9/11/23
1,147
1,159
113
I gotta second that one. You screwed the pooch not the chinaman. Then you say bad shit about him. That’s messed up man. You owe Steve an apology.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Karbon74

Oilime

WTB PAM 212
Patron
Certified
31/8/17
1,941
5,294
113
🇪🇺
I can better understand now the reason of why many feel uncomfortable selling stuff to new members. You’ve just jumped into the forum to write a complain, but that’s not the way the forum it’s thought to be
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Zeta7 and Karbon74

Zeta7

I'm Pretty Popular
Supporter
Certified
9/11/23
1,147
1,159
113
I can better understand now the reason of why many feel uncomfortable selling stuff to new members. You’ve just jumped into the forum to write a complain, but that’s not the way the forum it’s thought to be
No doubt man. As a new member I don’t understand why other noobs don’t spend time looking at the new posts with stuff other members have for sale. That’s all right, More good stuff for me
 
  • Like
Reactions: Oilime