Discussion: Perfect Replica for the Omega Speedmaster Reduced/Rescued 2?

[sanflex]

We all know there isn’t a truly perfect replica of the Omega Speedmaster Professional, mainly due to the subdial placement, which often doesn’t align well with automatic movements.

But wouldn’t the Omega Speedmaster Reduced or Rescued 2 be a better choice for a replica? These models have smaller cases and subdials that could potentially match the layout of an automatic movement more accurately.

What do you think? Wouldn’t this be an interesting alternative for replica makers to address the issues with the Professional? Maybe someone has seen such a replica already or has thoughts on how feasible this would be.

 

[Mkempes]

Haven't seen one but would definently be interested. However I don't think it will be repped because you can get a gen for around 2,5k€

 

[mclarendude]

There has never been much interest for it due to how accessible they are now on the second hand market.

I am told that they're not that good of an option for some mechanical weaknesses. But idk how true that is.

You'd be right on it being somewhat easier to rep but that would mean the Dubuois-Depraz module would have to be repped for an 2892 clone to keep the thickness of the watch gen-like. An 7750 clone would probably increase the thickness by half.

What is an Speedmaster Rescued 2?

 

[mclarendude]

And, If I may, there are now very good homages to scratch the itch.

For $100-ish, they look way better than the reps we get with Seagull movements.

 

[sanflex]

Haven't seen one but would definently be interested. However I don't think it will be repped because you can get a gen for around 2,5k€

That's true, there are indeed reps of Omega models that cost around 3k, and even Swatch reps exist, which are much cheaper watches. So I don't think the gen's price necessarily stops them from being repped. It’s more about demand and whether the makers see enough interest in something like the Reduced or Rescued 2. It would definitely be great to see one done well!

 

[sanflex]

There has never been much interest for it due to how accessible they are now on the second hand market.

I am told that they're not that good of an option for some mechanical weaknesses. But idk how true that is.

You'd be right on it being somewhat easier to rep but that would mean the Dubuois-Depraz module would have to be repped for an 2892 clone to keep the thickness of the watch gen-like. An 7750 clone would probably increase the thickness by half.

What is an Speedmaster Rescued 2?

The main difference between the **Speedmaster Reduced** and the **Speedmaster Reduced II** lies in their design updates and technical improvements.

The **Speedmaster Reduced** (ref. 3510.50) is the original, featuring a 39mm case and the modular **Caliber 1140/1143**, which combines a base ETA movement with a Dubois-Dépraz chronograph module. It has a more vintage aesthetic, with a traditional tachymeter bezel and the classic Speedmaster dial layout.

The **Speedmaster Reduced II** (also known as the "Speedmaster Date," ref. 3539.50) is a more modern iteration. It retains the 39mm case but features a slimmer profile and a sapphire crystal instead of the acrylic on the original Reduced. It also uses the updated **Caliber 3220**, which improves reliability and accuracy. Additionally, the Reduced II has a slightly refined dial design with updated fonts and details.

While both share similar proportions, the Reduced II is seen as a more polished, contemporary version of the original Reduced.

 

[sanflex]

And, If I may, there are now very good homages to scratch the itch.

For $100-ish, they look way better than the reps we get with Seagull movements.

It looks really great design wise, but unfortunately for me personally I’m not a fan of the quartz movement.

 

[mclarendude]

The main difference between the **Speedmaster Reduced** and the **Speedmaster Reduced II** lies in their design updates and technical improvements.

The **Speedmaster Reduced** (ref. 3510.50) is the original, featuring a 39mm case and the modular **Caliber 1140/1143**, which combines a base ETA movement with a Dubois-Dépraz chronograph module. It has a more vintage aesthetic, with a traditional tachymeter bezel and the classic Speedmaster dial layout.

The **Speedmaster Reduced II** (also known as the "Speedmaster Date," ref. 3539.50) is a more modern iteration. It retains the 39mm case but features a slimmer profile and a sapphire crystal instead of the acrylic on the original Reduced. It also uses the updated **Caliber 3220**, which improves reliability and accuracy. Additionally, the Reduced II has a slightly refined dial design with updated fonts and details.

While both share similar proportions, the Reduced II is seen as a more polished, contemporary version of the original Reduced.

I think you might have the Reduced II confused with the Speedmaster Date 3210.50.

The 3510.50 & 3539.50 are virtually the same sans the changes you mentioned above.

To our dismay, there used to be great replicas made years ago from the 3210.50. One sold here not that long ago.

I hate to burst your bubble, but we won't see either of these made. We've been begging for years for a good Moonwatch rep, which would outsell a Reduced replica ten-fold, to no avail.

It looks really great design wise, but unfortunately for me personally I’m not a fan of the quartz movement.

It's a compromise most have had to make unless you go the gen route. I did the latter.

 

[sanflex]

I think you might have the Reduced II confused with the Speedmaster Date 3210.50.

The 3510.50 & 3539.50 are virtually the same sans the changes you mentioned above.

To our dismay, there used to be great replicas made years ago from the 3210.50. One sold here not that long ago.

I hate to burst your bubble, but we won't see either of these made. We've been begging for years for a good Moonwatch rep, which would outsell a Reduced replica ten-fold, to no avail.


It's a compromise most have had to make unless you go the gen route. I did the latter.

Yeah I confused the name of the Speedmaster date with de reduced II ^^

the 3210.50 reps aren’t available anymore?

And yeah I joined the Gen train on this one. Not really a reduced but an Speedmaster automatic

 

[redj0hn]

Reduced versions are just too cheap to replicate. Who would pay 500 usd for a watch that is 2-3k gen

 

[mclarendude]

the 3210.50 reps aren’t available anymore?

No. There was a long time ago where Omegas were repped more widely, specially if it was able to be done with an unmodified 7750 movement clone. That was about ten years ago. Those days are over sadly.

Reps stop being made when they're no longer "trendy" or profitable. You'll be able to find great Seamaster and Planet Ocean replicas, but not Speedmasters unless you compromise a lot.

 

[Reaps]

Maybe it's a privilege to say this but the Omega Speedmaster is well within reach for anybody living on a first world salary. Even the 1861 variant is going for $4k if you know where to look for it.

DISCLAIMER DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH YADDA YADDA I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PURCHASES WITH SELLERS ETC ETC

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/1gsqutg $1750

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/1gtrehq $3850

So like that's what? like 6 months of saving $300 to buy the 3210.50 and 1 year of saving $300 for the other watch.

 

[The Marquis]

 

[sanflex]

Maybe it's a privilege to say this but the Omega Speedmaster is well within reach for anybody living on a first world salary. Even the 1861 variant is going for $4k if you know where to look for it.

DISCLAIMER DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH YADDA YADDA I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PURCHASES WITH SELLERS ETC ETC

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/1gsqutg $1750

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/1gtrehq $3850

So like that's what? like 6 months of saving $300 to buy the 3210.50 and 1 year of saving $300 for the other watch.

That’s to, just got myself the 3507.51 recently

 

[15450]

The reduced isn't very popular in gen, so don't see why they'd rep it.

I'd love for them to rep that new FOIS speedy tho

 

[sanflex]

The reduced isn't very popular in gen, so don't see why they'd rep it.

I'd love for them to rep that new FOIS speedy tho

Totally agree, the new FOIS is awesome