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lildaddym

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that the Ronda 5030D movement is used in watches from $200 to about $1,000? I was shocked! I mean, stuff like Sturhling, Chase-Durer, Breil?
 

lildaddym

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Shocked!? Well, considering what this movement costs (I found it for less than $40 USD), I can't believe that it's in such high-priced watches. But, I guess you pay for the look? I may even buy a second one for another 01-94 rep I have...I think Tissot (but since they're owned by Swatch, not really a surprise) even uses it!
 

Hogan

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Reliable movement is one thing, fit and finish is another. High quality materials used in the case as such will increase the price.

Kinda like a swiss quartz, do they really cost hundreds of dollars to justify an $1,000+ Omega???
 

R2D4

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ETA 2824 100.00 SteelFish Gen, 1500.00 What Hogan said. It's sick though right? I thought of the same thing with other swiss quartz watches.
 

guanaco

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Did you know most high-end watchmakers grab the basic ETA 2892-2 [around $200 more or less] slightly modify it and charge over $4,000 for it? :)

Or that Panerai takes the ridiculously cheap ETA 6497 [$140] slightly modify it and asks $5,000+ for it?! Yep... they suck, at least Omega adds the Co-axial escapement to their modified movements.

Reliable movement is one thing, fit and finish is another. High quality materials used in the case as such will increase the price.

Kinda like a swiss quartz, do they really cost hundreds of dollars to justify an $1,000+ Omega???

I'd gladly pay $3,000 for the X-33 but not the other Quartz pieces they offer.
 

frigpig

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at least Omega adds the Co-axial escapement to their modified movements.

Ahh?

"The escapement was commercialized 1999 by Omega SA when it introduced the first mass-produced watch incorporating the technology. When it first came to the market as the Caliber 2500, it had an oscillation rate of 28,800 bph, considered a "hi-beat" movement. But the rate was reduced to 25,200 bph in the caliber 2500C. "While Daniels has recognized the advantages of higher beat movements, he has also noted that they aggravate the problem of sliding friction in the escapement (at the escape teeth and pallets). Higher beat movements produce increased speed and pressure at these critical surfaces.""

Not all it's cracked up to be. Theoretically yes, In use .... not so much. :(
 

guanaco

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Eh, lots of brands go low-beat sometimes, like Patek Philippe, some of their watches have a Beat rate of 21,600.
 

fakemaster

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Shocked!? Well, considering what this movement costs (I found it for less than $40 USD), I can't believe that it's in such high-priced watches.

Ah yes the old watch X is only worth Y because it has Z in it. Like Hogan and Guanaco said. high beat is not inclusive of all higher end brands and there is more to to the value of a watch than the movement that is in it. People on the rep forums use those things as a guide but in the real world, gen buyers base value on a different criteria. I would rock a Chase Durer any day of the week.
 

lildaddym

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I like the Chase-Durer, too...but they're now 5 times what I paid for the one I had 20 years ago...metal is expensive. I figure the mass-production should reduce, not raise the price.
 

frigpig

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I'm not equating high beat to high price or quality. I'm just stating they had to lower the beat rate to fix excessive wear issues on these movments.