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Daytona 126500 Panda Comprehensive Comparison(Gen,Clean,VSF,APS,QF)

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Of course "Long" is subjective, but in my opinion these reps are very close to Gen, especially if you build a hybrid between CF/VSF/APS. Looking forward to seeing a BTF comparison.
Would you elaborate on what you’d use out of these three?
 

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Why even consider AR+F …It’s the worst one with wrong case and junk pushers from a $50 rep. Go with Clean, VS, BT 😉
Nah, this not the Old ar version posted in 2023. Its a different one, recent release. Dont get me wrong, its not a clean but its ok for the lower price.
Anyways, got it to check out the dials, curious to know which one is the best. I already had vs and aps in hand. Also, it might be useful info.
 
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This is a super helpful thread. Thank you for posting this with the chart and pictures
 

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Nah, this not the Old ar version posted in 2023. Its a different one, recent release. Dont get me wrong, its not a clean but its ok for the lower price.
Anyways, got it to check out the dials, curious to know which one is the best. I already had vs and aps in hand. Also, it might be useful info.
it’s still the old wrong case bud. On all 12 reference Daytona the case lines up with the bezel; but AR+F case has visible bezel to case gap (see pic). Pushers are a joke. It’s terrible, save your money. AR+F uses same Clean, VS dial.

 

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Indeed, the only difference you’re seeing with the dial is 1) the crystal difference which changes the tone 2) small variations in dial color or print between batches. I don’t think these factories are updating their dials to v2, v3 etc as much as they were before. Also there is no Rolex level standardization happening when manufacturing these dials, so you have to accept variation between them.

it’s still the old wrong case bud. On all 12 reference Daytona the case lines up with the bezel; but AR+F case has visible bezel to case gap (see pic). Pushers are a joke. It’s terrible, save your money. AR+F uses same Clean, VS dial.

 

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Indeed, the only difference you’re seeing with the dial is 1) the crystal difference which changes the tone 2) small variations in dial color or print between batches. I don’t think these factories are updating their dials to v2, v3 etc as much as they were before. Also there is no Rolex level standardization happening when manufacturing these dials, so you have to accept variation between them.
it’s still the old wrong case bud. On all 12 reference Daytona the case lines up with the bezel; but AR+F case has visible bezel to case gap (see pic). Pushers are a joke. It’s terrible, save your money. AR+F uses same Clean, VS dial.

The dials are not the same. And its not from the Crystal. Notice the Red Daytona markings. Clean is way too light in the red. You judge a bit too much without having the dial in hand.
 
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The dials are not the same. And its not from the Crystal. Notice the Red Daytona markings. Clean is way too light in the red. You judge a bit too much without having the dial in hand.

Can you please share some HD photos that show the difference better? I’ve had multiple Clean dials for 126500 Panda that have different Daytona prints bro…
 

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Can you please share some HD photos that show the difference better? I’ve had multiple Clean dials for 126500 Panda that have different Daytona prints bro…
Dont have anymore close up photos, in (my) clean dial you can clearly see how light the red Daytona is, i can't speak about others watches but only for what i had in hand, obviously.
 

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What is interesting here that arf was much more creamier compared to the clean on the first batches… now we can clearly see that they very close to the dial tone and on some pics clean looks even warmer… did the clean improoved their color tone or arf did updated to cool the dial color , we dont know… so much weird and not concrete things chinese make recently… like @daytonadude said they no longer make new versions but only make some things silently and they are all around
 
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Nobody is comment this
Or i cant find it here on rwi guys
126500 Panda Comparison(Gen,Clean,BTF)

Hey bud, I think because it’s Steves same thread here:

 
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Guys what's the difference with the new QF Daytona's with the SH4131 supposedly with 48hr power reserve only? They are much cheaper under $500 each. Anyone knows what are the downsides of this version? Is it just a movement with a smaller PR? Not even sure whats the difference in the movement and why it equals $200-$250USD less than the normal versions with the 72+hr reserve?

 

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Guys what's the difference with the new QF Daytona's with the SH4131 supposedly with 48hr power reserve only? They are much cheaper under $500 each. Anyone knows what are the downsides of this version? Is it just a movement with a smaller PR? Not even sure whats the difference in the movement and why it equals $200-$250USD less than the normal versions with the 72+hr reserve?

I think that's a decorated SL-4801. It doesn't look like a 4130 to me, nor a 4131. It is line with the 4801 power reserve.

I think it's great they're starting to offer value versions. It is crazy now that for the price of <$500 you can get a stable chronograph movement in your Daytonas.

The reason I believe it's a 4801 is because - of the rotor screw. Both the 4130 and 4131 use a triscrew setup, this is just a singular screw. The other pressed pins is the other sign.

@dogwood maybe can chime in more.
 
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I think that's a decorated SL-4801. It doesn't look like a 4130 to me, nor a 4131. It is line with the 4801 power reserve.

I think it's great they're starting to offer value versions. It is crazy now that for the price of <$500 you can get a stable chronograph movement in your Daytonas.

The reason I believe it's a 4801 is because - of the rotor screw. Both the 4130 and 4131 use a triscrew setup, this is just a singular screw. The other pressed pins is the other sign.

@dogwood maybe can chime in more.
Ah that makes sense. Thankyou mate. I guess I wont be buying these then. I was getting excited that QF dropped the price to be more competitive. :)

hahaha
 

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Hey bud, I think because it’s Steves same thread here:

Thanks budd