Daytona 116520 noob sa4130 v2 vs gen

[markfisher]

If crystal is the same but bezel angle is different then rehault
must be different (higher) on Noob...

 

[lcsrep11]

You are right, the gen looks like the sels were "forced" in and not flush. I looked at some gen pics on chrono24 and some are flush, some are not like mine. BAD QC?

Yours look better from the front I guess it doesn't really matter. Ive owned my gen 7 years now and there is a tiny tiny gap in the sel. When I have it polished my jeweller tightens them up but I try not to get it done too often.

 

[markfisher]

Yours look better from the front I guess it doesn't really matter. Ive owned my gen 7 years now and there is a tiny tiny gap in the sel. When I have it polished my jeweller tightens them up but I try not to get it done too often.

Could you post a pic? Thanks

 

[byronds]

Thanks for the great comparison.

 

[lcsrep11]

markfisher


You or anyone know how to embed photos ? Always have a nightmare posting pictures on here ?

 

[markfisher]

You have to use picr.me to upload the pics and then use the image icon to insert the link

 

[lcsrep11]

Thanks

https://picr.me/image/Mnvw3

The small gaps more visible at the top.

 

[lcsrep11]

 

[markfisher]

Yes, there seem to be a little gap between the SEL and the case, but very little.

 

[lcsrep11]

Yes, there seem to be a little gap between the SEL and the case, but very little.

Yea its tiny and can be easily tightened up by a watch smith. Ive seen sels a lot worse on daytona's on sites like watchfinder some have huge gaps on older models thats why it makes me laugh when people complain about sels on reps in macro photos that you probably wouldn't even notice in real life. My 16 yr old gmt has a better sel than my 7 year old daytona.

 

[stufuse]

Hello, took some pictures today. Sorry for the dirt and fingerprints, i realized today that i should clean them every once in a while White is noob v2. Black is 2015/2016 gen .

At a glance, dial print is off on the noob. Notably OYSTER PERPETUAL and dull DAYTONA lettering. Hands are flat. Bezel font is thinnier but close. Subdials are very close. Markers looks the same to me.
SEL protrudes from case. Crystal looks the same.



Closeup of dial

SIDE SHOT

GEN

NOOB

Gen bezel is more flat. My ARF 116520 is closer than the noob. Not noticeable on the wrist.

Bezel, crystal, sel
GEN

NOOB

SEL is recessed and with no gaps on gen watch. Noob is bad. pushers looks the same to me. Crystal is really close. Bezel is definetely more angled on the noob. Bezel numbers are really not noticeable.


another side shot

BACK
GEN

NOOB

Noob caseback is totally wrong. Grooves are way too small. SEL middle link curve is wrong. Gen sel don't sits flush to the back of the case, with no gaps.

SIDE shot

GEN

NOOB

Looks somewhat different. My ARF is closer. Crystal height is the same.

Conclusion:

I do like the V2 daytona, all the flaws are practically invisible on the wrist, the movement is really good, v2 dial is 80% good to me, it could pass for one of the many dial variations, please note gen is 1 tick noob is 2 tick. SEL is a disaster, My arf is way better. Bezel could be better, i'm sure they will fix it soon, as the small dial flaws.

Quoting this as I can’t see the pics


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[byronds]

I am just wondering if the genuine Rolex spring bar helps on minimizing the sel gap or not? Thanks.

 

[guru]

I am just wondering if the genuine Rolex spring bar helps on minimizing the sel gap or not? Thanks.

Gen Springbars don‘t help, they are 2 mm and noob /ARF are using 1.78 mm You can mod the hole to 2.0 mm or buy Swiss 1.78 mm Springbars.


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[stu00a]

Gen Springbars don‘t help, they are 2 mm and noob /ARF are using 1.78 mm You can mod the hole to 2.0 mm or buy Swiss 1.78 mm Springbars.


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guru Sorry to bring this up again but have anyone done a 2.0mm hole drill mod on these bracelets?

 

[gianttg]

one of the best topic

 

[Seefeld]

very useful pics, although now, looking at my noob, I realize more and more case's shape is not perfect at all… this hobby never ends I'm afraid

 

[Dantona1984]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the guys who bitch about the flaws for $700. Yes $700 is somebody's car payment it or house payment. But the gen is $14,000 used, $21,000 new
Does it have flaws? Yep. Some of them bug me. The dial is my biggest peeve. The subdials lack the pop of the gen. But what makes this watch worth every penny is the magical 4130 that they reverse engineered. That alone is worth the price of the watch.
Yet people proudly wear their noob 116610 with the 2836 that has obvious crown guard flaws, the crowns are too low, the LV model has that green dial that comes nowhere near the pop of brilliance of the gen and the movement turns backward to adjust time. Yet they complain about what is likely the most difficult Rolex to replicate.
This is a perfect platform for a grail franken build. Gen dial, bezel, hands, crystal, gasket, movement service, crown, plungers and adequate waterproofing. It won't be cheap, but it'd be stunning.
So, yes, it has flaws, but they're so subtle that no one will ever see them to call you out. I mix my gens and reps willy nilly randomly, and my Seiko 55 fathoms and SKX get the most wrist time.

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THIS.

$700 should justify the movement and the case. No replica is ever going to fully compare the shine/pop of a genuine dial along with the lume. Dial change and crystal are a must. Bezel, hands, crown etc you could argue over depending how much you want to invest or impress.

 

[capice]

would be interested in a compare between the movements

 

[Micasol]

would be interested in a compare between the movements

The noob is a perfect clone of gen, visually the only thing is the hairspring, gen used the breguet with microstella nuts.
Quality of metal used in noob is good too, however there is a difference versus gen, here’s a gen train wheels bridge versus rep, gen on left.

Wheels and screws are good too, but some minors difference between gen, from exemple the seconds chrono wheels, on gen there is a mark for perfect alignment when assembling it.
Reversing wheels are not ceramic, reason why it could be noisy, and when you cleaned them paint fit out

Overall this movement is really awesome, you could fit in all gen parts, same alignment of gen is, really a one to one rep.
This movement once serviced and improved with gen parts, but not necessary will run like a gen.
Does this movement we’d to be serviced? All I have seen where or over oiled, or dry of oil or full of dust

Btw imho it’s a must have one,


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[capice]

thanks bro,...seems the same "problem" as years ago which is not picked up by the factories, always poor assemblingconditions(dust/too much/too little lubrication)