Davidsen Pam061

[Antony]

Guys,

I need your help on this one. I just purchased my second rep and first Panerai, model 061 titanium from Davidsen. (also have a Rolex SD)

There are a few things that catch my attentention on the watch.

1. Davidson sold it with a asian 7750 movement. I believe that this is a auto movement (it rewinds when worn on the wrist).
The watch I received only rewinds by turning the crown. I clearly feel that I am winding a spring, therefore I assume it is a different movement.
2. The numbers on the dial. They look very much hand painted (from a closer look). the numbers are not as thick at all places and the green sometimes mixes with the dark brown dail.

I can try post some pictures.

Please help.

Antony

 

[reeder139]

Hi, please post pictures. Pictures speak a thousand words. Post a picture of the movement as well then we can tell exactly which movement it is.!

 

[alwayslate]

Yes, pictures please. DSN is a nice bloke and I've bought a fair few pieces from him. No issues whatsoever. Lets see.

 

[trksh-bzr]

without pigs this thread makes no sence..oink oink!!

 

[Antony]

Se pictures below. Please take a careful look at the numbers.

In the next picture you can see little hairs growing from the dial. Is this normal for a DSN quality rep?

Also the number 6 does not seem to be very accurate imo.

Please give me your comments, are my expectations to high or am I wrong, perhaps it is correct in compare to the gen.

I do not have tools to open the caseback. But a 7750 movement is winded by the movement of the wrist? I am correct?

Thanks a lot!

 

[hooligan]

Yeah, that dial has issues. I would contact DSN and show him those pics. Yes, the A7750 is an auto movement that should self-wind when the watch is moved around. If you think it is not working, that's something else to talk to Davidsen about.

 

[trksh-bzr]

first off.. you will be able to get the caseback off, using a "ball" of sticky tape (duct tape or such) then let's see some movement pics.
- and no the dial doesn't look like anything I've ever seen from dsn!
and I have never heard of a gen pammy with kiddy painted numbers either..

 

[Antony]

Thanks for your comments.
I have emailed David and hope he will fix things.

 

[pfft]

Would this watch not have an A6497?

 

[hooligan]

LOL

Sorry, it was early this AM and I wasn't really paying close attention to anything but the dial.

Yes, the 061 should absolutely have the 6497, either Asian or Swiss. As such, it IS NOT an automatic movement and will not wind with the movements of your wrist.

Are you certain Davidsen told you this watch had an A7750?

 

[Antony]

I just double checked my email, but yes Davidsen told me it has an A7750 movement. Checking the web learns me that the gen has a ETA 6497/2 movement. So actually on this point Davidsen is correct.

now only remains the dial...

 

[reeder139]

Try to the get back off and post a picture of the movement, just to clarify because it could be just me but your last comment regarding movements didn't make sense.

Yes that dial is dodgy.

 

[hooligan]

Reeder, this an A-D series watch, so it has a solid case back. Antony already said he doesn't have any tools to remove the case back.

I'm 100% certain it is a 6497 of some sort.

 

[trksh-bzr]

DUCT TAPE BALL.....GET IT OFF i wanna see more pics, just for the helluv it! and this way we'll save acharria the power used in demanding pics..hehe....

 

[hooligan]

It's a 6497, trust me. DSN doesn't make/offer this model with an auto movement.

 

[reeder139]

Cool, then it must have simply been a mistake while emailing.

 

[Antony]

Davidsen made a mistake in his email. I am pretty sure it is a 6497 movement. And yes the case back is solid. removing it is difficult. My first attempt with ducktape dit not work in any case.

I hope davidsen will fix the dial.

 

[Wiz]

You can try rubber gloves to unscrew the caseback. From my experience it works better than duct tape.

About the dial, once in a while DSN has serious QC issues. I don't know, maybe he leaves the business to someone else while he's on vaccation, but he messed up with one of my order (twice), and I'm not the only one...

I sent him the watch back, and it came back with another dial flaw, so I was pretty pissed off knowing that I've paid premium. Bottom line, I hope you won't get the same issues.

 

[Antony]

I tried ducktape and rubber gloves, without succes. David offered to send a new dial. I have already found a watch smith who is willing to work on reps (as long as the mechanics inside are of good quality).
However I have no idea how much they will charge me for changing the dial.

How much time will it take them?

Maybe it is cheaper to return it, but then again it will be the risk of customs taking the watch.

 

[Spboudart]

It would take any qualified watchsmith around 5 to 10 minutes maximum to do it, if the guy is not a thief he should not take you more than 20 euros (I'd say 10, if he make you pay something).
Shipping the watch back is risky, you won't have it back for another month, and might cost you more.