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Clean Factory Rolex GMT GRNR Bruce Wayne vs ARF Bruce Wayne

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Do you notice some difference in gray insert color between ARF and clean? From your pictures seems almost the same
 

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I inspected the root beer from arf (heavy version) and the rehaut polishing is next level.
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Just received this watch, weighed in at 176g, all the additional weight is in the case, the case back is just steel and links and buckle are standard weight, it’s still a little heavier than Gen. overall pretty impressive
 

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Looks stunning. Where can I buy this rubber strap? My Bruce Wayne DD3285 jubilee is on the way. Thank you in advance.
Here y’a go
 
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It's not a straight swap unfortunatley. I've tried.
Ideally I’d swap the DD3285 into the ARF along with the meteorite dial and call it a day, lol.
 

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I now have both to compare and post pics of side by side. Unfortunately the CF is with a buff meteorite dial but I have the original dial I can post pics of. It’s not really any different from ARF’s from what I can tell.
I have to say that the winding feel of the DD3285 on the clean is superior, but the rehaut and insert on the ARF are better. Thoughts?

I want to turn my Batman into a Bruce Wayne. Would you choose ARF insert/hands over Clean?
 

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Does anyone know if ARF sell the bezel on its own?
I believe ARF use the CF Bezels on their GMT's as well as the bracelet and case. You can generally buy them off a TD plus you can locate them on Alie express for a premium.
 
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I also suck at comparisons so let me know if I can show anything else between them

Awesome pics!

In what ways is the ARF insert better to your eye? Are the color of the two inserts noticeably different in person?

Did you buy the buff dial on its own and do the mods yourself? Or did you have a dealer do the mod? And how much did the buff dial run you? Feel free to PM if that is not supposed to be posted. Thank you!
 

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Do I need to change GEN or DEEP Crystal for ARF? I have one Clean pepsi V2. I want to go from ARF in the new GMT. Rehaut and serial number look much better in ARF. ARF seems to be the best option on GRNR. Correct me if I am wrong, thanks.
 

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Do I need to change GEN or DEEP Crystal for ARF? I have one Clean pepsi V2. I want to go from ARF in the new GMT. Rehaut and serial number look much better in ARF. ARF seems to be the best option on GRNR. Correct me if I am wrong, thanks.
Probably not necessary. Why don't you buy it first and then see how you feel about the crystal?

ARF vs Clean is a new debate. I think the consensus is that ARF looks a little better aesthetically but lacks the DD3285 which is objectively the superior movement. So do you want movement that is reliable and very proven? Or aesthetics with a slightly worse SH3285?
 
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It’s to my understanding that ARF uses the same case and inlay as clean. So where are people seeing the aesthetic improvement in the ARF?
 

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It’s to my understanding that ARF uses the same case and inlay as clean. So where are people seeing the aesthetic improvement in the ARF?
I think the case is the same but the rehaut finishing is a bit better, it's very well polished. The bezel "tooth" rings outside of the watch is also slightly different.

The crystal is "mildly" improved (although I would more like to say this is probably that stupid "Clean crystals are bad" myth).
 

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I think the case is the same but the rehaut finishing is a bit better, it's very well polished. The bezel "tooth" rings outside of the watch is also slightly different.

The crystal is "mildly" improved (although I would more like to say this is probably that stupid "Clean crystals are bad" myth).
+1 case, rehaut, bezel are better finished
 

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Great picture and details of difference.
I want to buy one of this with dd3285 movements.
When you set the time and use it, how long it keeps the exact time? THanks in advance
 

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I have the Clean with deep crystal installed, it’s currently out for service, I should get it back next week, I can post some pics then . ARF does look better. But movement reliability is more important to me.
Not this particular model but I have heard OOTB plating color mentioned as superior. Specifically on the rose gold versions.
 

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I have the Clean with deep crystal installed, it’s currently out for service, I should get it back next week, I can post some pics then . ARF does look better. But movement reliability is more important to me.
Kind of ironic isn't it? Movement reliability is important but your clean is out for service....