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Christopher Ward C12 Loco

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I bought a MAD 1 I won in the raffle, spent around $3,300, wore it three times and it sits in the box.

Dumb. These gimmicky kind of watches dont end up getting any wrist time Id have been better off getting any number of Tudor/Omega/Cartier/Zenith etc etc etc in the sameish bracket.

In general Im done with gimmicky micro brands/independents I see I like I waste money and they sit.

But you could have sold it for a proper profit back then and even nowadays, probably get more than what you spent back. How the MAD 2 will fare being more wearable we will see, and I will report back regarding that as I have "won" the right to purchase one.
I am not sure how the Loco will hold up on the secondary market.
 

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Before the circle-jerking I started gets too out of hand 😅, let me first acknowledge that the CW Loco is a well-designed watch with an in-house caliber — and that does deserve some respect. 👏

That said, let’s unpack why its price point still feels completely delusional. 😂

We all know that even high-end luxury watches in the €5K–€10K range can often be produced for around €500.

In most industries, a healthy profit margin is typically 4–5x the production cost. That €40–€50 steak at your favorite restaurant? It better cost no more than €10-12 to make (ideally even less), or the business won’t cover rent, salaries, overhead, and still turn a decent profit.

But with watches, it’s different — and much more extreme, actually.

Omega’s margins? Around 10–12x on their €5K–€7K models. Rolex? You’re looking at 20x or more on their €10K pieces.

Now, a non-watch person might reasonably ask: “If Omega and Rolex can price like that, why can’t CW do the exact same ?”

To the watch crowd, the answer’s obvious: brand recognition and perceived value of two major legacy brands. 👆

Omega and Rolex can charge those premiums because they’ve spent decades, even over a century, building up their legacy, desirability, and emotional equity with collectors and the general public alike.

CW, however, while making solid strides and great value watches at lower price points, simply hasn’t earned the same level of brand capital. Not yet, at least (let our great-grandkids pick up on that debate to reevaluate 😄).

So when they suddenly try to leap into that upper echelon with a €5K offering, it doesn’t feel like ambition — it feels like overreach. 🙁

They’re skipping the slow, painful grind of building legacy and trust at tha price point. And in the world of horology, that grind is non-negotiable.

And what about the resale value of this watch (if you paid full retail)? Probably friggin' atrocious., 😂

Nice watch? Yes. Fair price? Not even close.
 
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Ok, done ranting. 😅

For the day. 🤣

going off alex jones GIF
 

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But you could have sold it for a proper profit back then and even nowadays, probably get more than what you spent back. How the MAD 2 will fare being more wearable we will see, and I will report back regarding that as I have "won" the right to purchase one.
I am not sure how the Loco will hold up on the secondary market.
I like everything about the 2 except the 1 handed time telling aspect, def looks better and more wearable had the purple been available to the public I would have been tempted to swap them.

I have the green lucky clover so its the rarest variant, maybe you're right smart move is to sell it.
 

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The watch isn't my taste but I could see how it might be a popular watch with those who like 'The Twelve'. This will do well for CW.

I think this guy has the CW business model figured out.


(To Long Didn't Watch 12:39 "they've built a model around convincing people that they're affordable with their $1,000 models but consistently getting most customers to buy the $2,000 or $2,500 models. You've got all the advantages of seeming affordable but ultimately making your money on your expensive core catalog"
 
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If their 3X pricing model is true, they'll make over $1mil on the first production run of 750. With their DTC and Pre-order model it ensures they won't have to send them off to the bargin bin to sell at a loss.
 

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It felt to me like CW made a significant change in direction when he 'left' the company in 2020. (For those who don't know the founder Christopher Ward 'left' the company Christopher Ward. I guess he's a bit like Prince in that he doesn't own his own name).

Fresh money came in, CW 'left' and then out popped the Bel Canto. This Loco feels like the money guys are just trying to do the same again. Fair enough I guess but I'm reminded of that Simpsons episode where Homer designs a car...

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